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    Office of Diplomatic Affairs

    Minister of Diplomatic Affairs:
    Up for grabs. If any body wants it then they can post at the bottom of the thread. So far Krill is the only applicant.

    Amabassadors Vacant
    Role Play: DeepO
    Vox Controli: Vacant
    Legoland: Vacant
    Glory of War: Cort Haus
    Neu Demogyptia:? DeepO


    Current Events
    -Vox Defeated?"

    -Nathan' s "Idea for a remote possibility for peace"


    Diplomatic Policies
    This secton will be edited from time to time to reflect the ongoing policies We should be disscusig policy in this thread and the policy set forth here is the official word on current (and past) issues.

    Diplomatic Logs and Comments:

    Vox Controli:
    Vox Controli Diplomatic Log
    Vox Controli Diplomatic Comments#2

    Glory of War:
    Glory of War Diplomatic Log
    Glory of War Diplomatic Comments #2

    Role Play:
    Role Play Diplomatic Log
    Role Play Diplomatic Comments

    Legoland:
    Legoland Diplomatic Log
    Legoland Diplomatic Comments

    Neu Demogyptia:
    Neu Demogyptia Diplomatic Log
    Neu Demogyptia Diplomatic Comments


    Original post...... and background....
    Greetings, fellow Stormians.

    I will edit this top post to link (over time) to all diplomaticly natured and specific Civ diplomacy discussions I can find.

    Also, I will be editing this top post from time to time as New threads get created and situations develop.

    As I am planning on heading up diplomatic coordination (unless there are any objections, help is always wanted).........

    As we can all see we have real diplomatic issues. What we need is to revisit what we are doing and not doing right. There has been a real breakdown in or diplomacy (and I recognize I had my part in the breakdown), so I propose a change.

    This thread is dedicated to the diplomatic game. I would like it topped (might not need to) and use it as an office we all go to to discuss our diplomatic scean on a whole.

    This is where the Diplomatic Scholia meets.

    We formulate all policy here. All official GS diplomacy (PR, Leaks, attitudes and such) is formulated out of this thread. [it hasnt worked that way yet, but No biggie...]


    We need to coordinate and soften our touch here is where we can begin...

    Lastly..

    Also I saw discussion relating to having a individual FAM per se to set tone and direction for the ambassadors. I would be willing to do it (if someone has that position, I do not necessarily want to take it from them) , I usually check in once or twice a day and and can respond to high level dimlomatic issues and back the ambassadors.

    Gott go...
    krill
    Last edited by Krill; May 25, 2004, 12:34.
    Remember.... pillage first then burn.

  • #2
    First of all let me say I am sorry for neglecting my FAM duties. Although I have announced I can no longer maintain that position, I should have made an effort to find a replacement.

    Perhaps the first change we could do is give the ambassadors greater freedom of action- Having a FAM full time could certainly help with making sure our ambassadors are not out of line. This also promote an active and involved image.
    Save the rainforests!
    Join the us today and say NO to CIV'ers chopping jungles

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    • #3
      I forgot two things:
      MSS, Go for it (with regard to the FAM post)!

      And also the issue of the chat with ND- that should be discussed in the comments thread.
      Save the rainforests!
      Join the us today and say NO to CIV'ers chopping jungles

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      • #4
        This is good. I'll help in anyway I can. If any civ needs a new ambassador?
        Are we having fun yet?

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        • #5
          OPD, if you're willing to take an ambassador role: I've got two, which I don't have enough time for. Lego and RP... with RP the most difficult one for me (GK was a blessing, however given the last communications on the public forum, I guess a replacement there would be best).

          So, if you feel you want to deal with Togas' team (as in reality, he still is making most of the decisions, it seems), please be my guest! Otherwise I'll gladly hand over Lego as well....

          DeepO

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          • #6
            I gladly take over either one of them. Togas and GK I know well although...

            Originally posted by DeepO
            however given the last communications on the public forum, I guess a replacement there would be best).
            it seems you are being scapegoated into being the reason for poor relations with RP and me taking over would kinda cement this view.

            I don't really mind either way so which ever one you think would be best.
            Are we having fun yet?

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            • #7
              Vox's Offer of Peace

              The entire "Official" communication of peace. Voxes offer and

              my reply....
              Ambassador Betahound and Vox Controli:

              Gathering Storm thanks you for your offer. This is a good starting point.

              I will take it back to the Storm so that we can discuss it.
              What Beta Sent
              BetaHound wrote on 06-06-2003 04:58:
              Greetings MSS. There has been much discussion within Vox. We understand your position as stated in your letter.

              To start the discussion, we would propose:

              Vox makes a public announcement of its agressive and back-handed attack on GS. A public mea culpa.

              Vox relinquishes rights to all lands in South Estonia. (ie south of Elipolis)

              Vox gifts the City of Dissidentville to GS.

              We look forward to hearing from you.

              Regards ... Beta.
              What we started with...

              ManicStarSeed wrote on 05-06-2003 17:44:
              People of Vox:

              Gathering Storm acknowledges your offer of peace. Be assured that Gathering Storm is considering it. Please understand that there are many in the Storm that will accept nothing less than an unconditional surrender. In other words peace on our terms, Are you still willing to talk peace?

              We can't hold up the game discussing it, and so we played the turn. If you really want peace, may we suggest sending us a formal proposal, and using some of your teams time on the clock to do it, so that we may have time to properly discuss it (your time, plus the time between us, plus our time)? Please understand, however, that hostilities in the game will continue unless and until a formal deal is reached.


              Regards
              Mss, Ambassador to Vox
              Gathering Storm
              Remember.... pillage first then burn.

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              • #8
                BetaHound wrote on 06-06-2003 04:58:
                Greetings MSS. There has been much discussion within Vox. We understand your position as stated in your letter.

                To start the discussion, we would propose:

                Vox makes a public announcement of its agressive and back-handed attack on GS. A public mea culpa.

                Vox relinquishes rights to all lands in South Estonia. (ie south of Elipolis)

                Vox gifts the City of Dissidentville to GS.

                We look forward to hearing from you.

                Regards ... Beta.
                Tell them well take a settler over to lego for them and then they can get the hell off our island.
                Are we having fun yet?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by OPD


                  Tell them well take a settler over to lego for them and then they can get the hell off our island.
                  Its looking that way.

                  The dear john letter I had in mind runs along this way...

                  People of vox controli:

                  After careful deliberation, Gathering Storm currently does not accept your overtures of peace. Thanks to the surge in patriotic sentiment brought on by the war, Gathering Storm now has siezed upon a vision of Manifest Destiny.

                  Our warmest sentiment that we can muster is that we hope you get a settler or two on a gally and sail far far away.





                  ...or something like that

                  mss
                  Remember.... pillage first then burn.

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                  • #10

                    You misspelled galley, but the rest is very good!

                    I would add to that that we might have considered their proposal warmly if it was submitted a few turns ago, but since they took so long to admit their defeat, the window of chance has closed over their fingers.
                    "Close your eyes, for your eyes will only tell the truth,
                    And the truth isn't what you want to see,
                    Close your eyes, and let music set you free..."
                    - Phantom of the Opera

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                    • #11
                      Drive them into the sea! Let not the wicked infidels escape!

                      Poetic justice n' whatnot.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Shiber
                        ....
                        I would add to that that we might have considered their proposal warmly if it was submitted a few turns ago, but since they took so long to admit their defeat, the window of chance has closed over their fingers.
                        That would create hard feelings. That would be better discussed in a "lessons learned thread" in the main forum.

                        It is of no use (besides pissing them off) to point out how their past stubornness has left them without any options right now.

                        Besides They did ask for peace (5-7 turns ago), but it was not warmly accepted as it offered no terms. It took us by suprise and we basicly rebuffed it while figuring out what we would/would not accept.
                        Mss
                        Remember.... pillage first then burn.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Trip
                          Drive them into the sea! Let not the wicked infidels escape!

                          Poetic justice n' whatnot.

                          Ahh the peanut gallery chimes in ...
                          Remember.... pillage first then burn.

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                          • #14
                            I would also add that given the treatment Vox has given us, we see no option other than them leaving the continent. Gives us sort of excuse, other than just "screw you!"...
                            Save the rainforests!
                            Join the us today and say NO to CIV'ers chopping jungles

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by zeit
                              I would also add that given the treatment Vox has given us, we see no option other than them leaving the continent. Gives us sort of excuse, other than just "screw you!"...
                              I dunno I kinda like the screw you.
                              Are we having fun yet?

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