Turn 100, 570BC

[notyoueither]

We are building a road on the mine at H8?

[nbarclay]

Originally posted by notyoueither
We are building a road on the mine at H8?

That's the plan. I haven't issued the order yet, though.

[notyoueither]

Do we want to use the build-to trick so that they finish during our turn next turn and the units there have full mobility? Would it work?

[Aeson]

I'd rather not. That seems too far into the exploit end of things even if it works. It basically gives our workers a free turn.

So far the furthest in that direction that we've gone is short rushing. It's something that probably wasn't intended to be doable, but at least doesn't give us anything 'free'... we still build and pay for the shields.

[Arrian]

1) Would it work?
2) Would it be within the rules of the demogame?

-Arrian

Edit: crosspost with Aeson. I agree with him on this (but not on the build orders )

[nbarclay]

Originally posted by Aeson
If we have more Pikes we don't need to attack 2HP units though. We can wait.

If we knew Vox would come through the mountains, I would agree. But I'd like to see us have offensive options, not just defensive ones. If Vox gives us an opening to seize their road and all of a sudden have troops right outside Dissidentville, I want us to be in a position to exploit that opening. I want us to be prepared for worst-case scenarios, but I don't want us to focus 100% of our planning around what would be best in worst-case scenarios.

[asleepathewheel]

Um. Whats the build to exploit?

[notyoueither]

OK. We will not use it. Cool by me.

[Aeson]

A worker using the 'build to' command will finish their road project and still have full movement points left, instead of finishing it by using up it's movement points.

I think using it here would have 1 of our Workers 'come out of it' next turn, the other two finishing the 2 Worker turns left on the road. If that is the case, it's ok IMO, we are still putting in 5 Worker turns, so nothing free.

I'm not sure if it works that way or not though. If all 3 of our Workers come out of it next turn, it's like getting a 5 Worker turn Mountain road for the price of 3.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by asleepathewheel
Um. Whats the build to exploit?

Using the build-road-to command, the workers finish sort of during your turn on the last turn. If you cycle through all your units using wait, the workers complete the road when you get to them in the order. Then your units can use the road.

[Aeson]

I'll run a test to see how it would work.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Using the build-road-to command, the workers finish sort of during your turn on the last turn. If you cycle through all your units using wait, the workers complete the road when you get to them in the order. Then your units can use the road.

Thats an exploit! Whoops! How embarrassing. I've done that in every game I've played, probably.

[Aeson]

Just tested, and it doesn't help us much if any. Next turn they'd be roading, and at the end of the turn one of the Workers would come off the Mountain with no movement points left. The next turn, they all can move, just one of them will be on the tile where we chose to road to.

[Aeson]

NM... the worker will have 2/3rds movement left. So it's not giving us free worker turns, but does give us a 2 tile movement advantage.

[nbarclay]

The big difference is if it lets the road finish during the turn instead of at the end of the turn. That would make our offensive units on Hurricane 8 available to go after Voxians that try to strike Sandstorm over flatlands a turn earlier. By the way, if Vox is using the "road to" exploit, they could move troops over their road next turn, right?