Civ 3: PTW Democracy Game II

[Tiberius]

I'd be interested, but only when the first one will end.

[BigFree]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Hmmm. I was hoping GS and other teams would stick together and enter in other derbies.

I was think it would be nice if people would join different teams. We don't want any clique's running around here, do we?

It would give people a chance to work together instead of against each other. I think it would help to improve relations for Apolyton members. I liken the PTWDG here to an Intrasquad game, it is meant for us to learn, hone our skills against human opponents and to have fun.

[alva]

Originally posted by Trip

What do you mean? We have more ISDGs where the current PTW DG teams play against teams from other sites?

, that's more like it

[Thrumble]

There's the current PTW Demo Game, the Citystates version of the PTW Demo Game, and now we want a third PTW Demo Game? I'm up for it, but I think we shouldn't "over expose" the idea to prevent people from getting burned out.

Are we going to force people to keep the same teams or will Mark and Dan create new forums for new teams? I would prefer we start out with eight teams and no AI, this gives us more targets to eliminate.

[Jon Shafer]

Originally posted by alva
, that's more like it

Why?

I think BF is right. The more we draw lines to seperate people into permanent parts of the DG community, the more we hurt ourselves. At this point, I would be open to joining any team with any theme simply for the fun of it and for a new and different experience. Keeping the same teams would only breed fiercer competition, establish sterotypes and feed grudges and egos. None of which fosters a team-like spirit.

[Thrumble]

Originally posted by Trip
Keeping the same teams would only breed fiercer competition, establish sterotypes and feed grudges and egos.

Now that sounds like fun.

[Master Zen]

In any case then we can make this sort of a "lightweight" DG until the regular one ends and a serious part II starts.

I like the idea, small teams, not really based on warmonger/builder/roleplayer themes but just among people who get along.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Trip

Why?

I think BF is right. The more we draw lines to seperate people into permanent parts of the DG community, the more we hurt ourselves. At this point, I would be open to joining any team with any theme simply for the fun of it and for a new and different experience. Keeping the same teams would only breed fiercer competition, establish sterotypes and feed grudges and egos. None of which fosters a team-like spirit.

I don't think that everyone has to go the same direction. Do they?

GS is a bit of a different bird, from what I am reading. It is a team in a very real sense, because we all know each other, and we share a kindrid spirit, for the most part. Now, if other members of other teams do not feel the same, OK. People should be free to do as they wish, and so should we.

We are not better, nor worse, than any other team. We are a team though. That has been my sense from the get go. It has also been my hope that these teams would continue in some fashion or other. If others do not feel the same, so be it.

You could always force new teams. I suspect though, that some of the flocks will fly together.

[Hot_Enamel]

I would join a second game.

Smaller teams are definately the way to go.

Perhaps a pangea map would be better next time around. It will take the diplomacy level up a notch or two...imaging declaring war, and having to worry about your borders from 6 other directions.

Definately mixing up the current teams would be the way to go...although we couldn't force people into them.

And although I nothing comes to mind yet...a twist in the rules would certainly make it more interesting.

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by notyoueither

GS is a bit of a different bird, from what I am reading. It is a team in a very real sense, because we all know each other, and we share a kindrid spirit, for the most part. Now, if other members of other teams do not feel the same, OK. People should be free to do as they wish, and so should we.

We are not better, nor worse, than any other team. We are a team though. That has been my sense from the get go. It has also been my hope that these teams would continue in some fashion or other. If others do not feel the same, so be it.

No offense but GS does not hold a monopoly on team spirit and the kindred between your team members can most certainly apply to all other teams.

The point of this new demo game is IMO to give a lighter approach to the concept, therefore it would be nice if smaller but more "mixed" teams could be formed.

[redstar1]

I'm happy to design a map, been doing a bit of this recently, just messing about trying to gain inspiration to start a few SP games!

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Master Zen


No offense but GS does not hold a monopoly on team spirit and the kindred between your team members can most certainly apply to all other teams.

The point of this new demo game is IMO to give a lighter approach to the concept, therefore it would be nice if smaller but more "mixed" teams could be formed.

Feel free to form a team on your own lines of thought.

However, do you seek to fit us with the straight-jacket of your own views?

[BigFree]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Feel free to form a team on your own lines of thought.

However, do you seek to fit us with the straight-jacket of your own views?

Well I'm not sure what you mean by "us," since I don't see very many GS member's in this thread as of yet saying they would want to be on the same team for a 2nd game.

When I was in school, I remember instructor's, even in College, forming groups or teams for what ever reason, out of member's from different clique's, even seperating 'friends' sometimes. The reason they did this was to teach us that we can also learn from someone who is not familiar with you or the way you think. We can learn from someone who is totally different form ourselves. It may have been tough at first, but people eventually settled in and made new friends inside these groups. People even learned new things since ideas that had never been introduced to them were.

I'm not asking you to get rid of your current friends, but to embrace new ones in a setting where you can be both the student and the teacher. It would make Apolyton stronger community because of it. It's when someone new comes in here and asks a question that really changes the way we are thinking about the way we play our games sometimes.

[FrustratedPoet]

It's hard for me to contemplate getting involved in another DG while the current one is so busy. It's hard enough for me to keep up with the current one and try to contribute in any meaningful way without starting another.

I'd like to play in another MP DemoGame eventually, but not yet. Count me out for now.

Good luck with it anyway guys!

/edit: For the record, I would be very happy to stay on GS for a second game sometime in the future (if they'd want me). I've had fun in GS so far. However, it would also be fun to play with a new group, and doing so would have a few advantages over sticking with the same bunch. Descisions, descisions...

[Aeson]

Sounds like a great idea. Maybe make it a more public version? I think the most enjoyable and interesting parts of this game so far have been the times when teams went public with (dis)information...

As for team formation, I would join any team that had a name comprised completely of vowels, decided to play OCC, and/or used orange as their colors! I wouldn't fit in well on a roleplaying team though, I have a hard enough time trying to define my inborn character.

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GS is a lot of fun for me. I mainly joined because the strat forum had gotten ratehr quiet, and it seems a lot of those discussions have moved into the GS forum. That said, it would be fun to be on other teams and get to know and annoy other people.