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**Shiber** · May 9, 2003, 15:08

Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
It's the electronic equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and shouting "LaLaLaLa, I'm not listening to you!".

That goes well with your new avatar!

**ThePlagueRat** · May 10, 2003, 06:01

When someone with a war-criminal as avatar starts telling me about democracy in this funny way, I think it's a bit inappropriate. I'm not mentioning any names... See ya!

**Shiber** · May 10, 2003, 06:31

In a Democracy, everyone has rights and gets treated equally, even fascists and *cough*pagans*cough*. That is the true magnificence of the Democratic system.
Now, if only this was true in real life...

**ThePlagueRat** · May 10, 2003, 06:56

That's also the weakness of "democracy". It was in "democratic" republics that the fascists managed to get their foothold in the 30-ies. If they were communist states, the fascists wouldn't have a chance. They are all representative "democracies". A true Democracy has never been implemented, though...

NB: I'm not a real commie actually, just trying to tick off US patriots with my little flag.

**Shiber** · May 10, 2003, 07:01

These states had flawed constitutions and lacked a powerful judiciary system, like the Israeli High Court of Justice, for example. Additionally, they did not have a long-running democratic tradition so Democracy was not as strong as it should have been to repel Fascism.
In any case, Communism is certainly not the answer to Fascism. It's hard for me to decide which was more evil, German Nazism or Soviet Communism.

**ThePlagueRat** · May 10, 2003, 07:57

There were many factions back then. The popular fascist SA consisted of some communist factions too. And you are right, democracy had no real tradition there. The general depression, and the oppression of a poor workingclass let such extreme politics win, with Stalin being as worse as the fascists... Germany and Italy had many communists who were ready for the revolution, but the iron boot of fascism trampled them. If they had a welfare state, the communist revolution would probably not have been the big issue then. And the fascist demagogs would not have gained the masses popularity.

So for all those neoconservatives (fascist light) who wants to bring down welfare.... they deserve a violent revolution and a barrel pointing at their face. Cause they love guns, don't they?

To this day, Spain's neoconservatives has remnants of the fascist ideals. (Franco regime) Some politicians there recently wanted to pass a law to prohibit demonstrations against warfare, when the government was involved in a war. These fascist tendencies also pop up in the US these days, under a certain neoconservative party: A new law being proposed by Republican senators will serve prohibit criticism of Israel on American college campuses.
Which is both crimes against human rights...

Edit: (uh, this thread got a bit off topic, sorry...)

**Panag** · May 10, 2003, 08:00

Originally posted by Shiber
In a Democracy, everyone has rights and gets treated equally, even fascists and *cough*pagans*cough*. That is the true magnificence of the Democratic system.
Now, if only this was true in real life...

more bilbul baitsin , .....

but being called a fascist and a pagan is something thats a lewd personal insult , .......

is that all you can do , cant you talk about the map , ....

obviously not , .....

**Shiber** · May 10, 2003, 08:08

I didn't call you a fascist. You just chose to interpret my words this way.
I don't think Sharon is a war criminal either. The Israeli Supreme High Court of Justice cleared him and I have my full faith in this institute, which is comprised of some of the most intelligent, humanitarian and all-around amazing people in Israel.

As for the topic, the map discussion is over. Have you seen the new run-off poll? 82.35% voted for Standard... I guess you were wrong.

**Shiber** · May 10, 2003, 08:18

Originally posted by panag
is that all you can do , cant you talk about the map , ....

"Stay on topic! Stay on topic! WAAAAAA!!"
Put a sock in it you big baby.

Anyone other than pagan who is reading this, you may wanna check out this thread: http://central.masterzen.net/index.p...=6&t=96&st=100
Some laughs in there.
Give special attention to the 8th post in the 5th page and what follows.

**ThePlagueRat** · May 10, 2003, 08:19

I am a pagan, whats wrong with being a pagan?!!

**Shiber** · May 10, 2003, 08:20

Exactly, pagans rule.
Those huge golden statues they worship are wicked

**Panag** · May 10, 2003, 08:34

Originally posted by Shiber

"Stay on topic! Stay on topic! WAAAAAA!!"
Put a sock in it you big baby.

Anyone other than pagan who is reading this, you may wanna check out this thread: http://central.masterzen.net/index.p...=6&t=96&st=100
Some laughs in there.
Give special attention to the 8th post in the 5th page and what follows.

am i happy that i have not joined that site , ....

but you still fail to post anything on the topic , the only thing you seem to be doing from time to time is to engage in the bashing of a couple user for one reason or the other , .....

not to mention that you seem not to be able to write the name of a poster correct , you lower yourself to the pagan , .... if that all you can , then what are you doing here , ....

you only engage in personal insults , .....

are you there again with your sabara story , oh boy , .... is that all you can think about , ....

**ThePlagueRat** · May 10, 2003, 08:41

Originally posted by Shiber
Exactly, pagans rule.
Those huge golden statues they worship are wicked

You mean those penis-shaped ones?
BTW, Freudians also rule.

**Shiber** · May 10, 2003, 08:49

Originally posted by panag
am i happy that i have not joined that site , ....

The other frequent posters and myself are just as glad to hear that you're leaving.

but you still fail to post anything on the topic

I told you already, the topic is dead. The previous poll determined that the game will be played on a standard map, and if that wasn't enough, the new poll cleared that up beyond any doubts.
We'll be playing in a standard size map. This has been determined already. There's no room left for discussion.

the only thing you seem to be doing from time to time is to engage in the bashing of a couple user for one reason or the other , .....

No, I only engage in the bashing of you, and that's only when you start an irritating argument and refuse to stop. In between, when you're out of my sight, I don't bother pestering you.

not to mention

Okay, I won't mention it.

that you seem not to be able to write the name of a poster correct , you lower yourself to the pagan , ....

By saying that, you declare that being called a pagan is an insult. In that, you disgrace ThePlagueRat and all the other pagans in the world, which I find is a rather large insult to throw at a huge community which you're not even familiar with.
But I'm the one throwing insults here... owwwwwkay.

if that all you can

That's not true. I also make a great home pizza, and alcohol-coconut-vanilla tea.

you only engage in personal insults , .....

Again, you constantly insult hundreds of thousands of pagans around the world, but I'm the one that's slinging mud around here.

are you there again with your sabara story , oh boy , .... is that all you can think about , ....

Gotcha!
First you say that I can't even spell your nick correctly... and then you misspell sabra's nick.
The joke's on you

**Shiber** · May 10, 2003, 08:51

Originally posted by ThePlagueRat
You mean those penis-shaped ones?
BTW, Freudians also rule.

Nothin' like a colossal gold-clad phallic symbol to start up my day

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