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**Panag** · May 9, 2003, 05:25

Originally posted by Master Zen
Yes, that is why the US "re-polled" during the last election

seriously, the job of a democracy isn't to please everyone with the votes, it's to please them once they get in power.

Anyway, enough of this senseless discussion. I'm outta here. No use trying to argue with someone like you panag who argues just for the sake of irritating people. Honestly, I'd think of better things to do with my time than that.

hi ,

i dont started this , i just noted that its intresting , ....

and anyway the larger then standard group has won , .... 7+7 = 14 , ...... standard only got 13 , ..... why , cause the standard users should then not be counted , .....

senseless , .... well its afterall conserning the map we are going to be looking at for hoppefully a long time , .....

and i dont argue just for the sake of irritating people like some others , .....

it does deserve its discussion , ....

have a nice day with your time

**Panag** · May 9, 2003, 05:29

Originally posted by BigFree

So what other 'option' could there have been? All of the avaiable options were listed, I believe. I guess we coulda listed:

98x98 map
99x99 map

Whatever dude, you are a true spam artist, I tip my cap to that for you! You make an argument then you twist it till it's another argument.

Most people just give up on reasoning with you rather than trying to argue with you. I don't think you understand the difference between the two, seriously.

those options where never included to choose from in the first place , .....

spam , well at least i dont use words like moron to other posters , .....

not to mention the fact that when makes for himself an intresting observation some others do anything it takes to attack him , ....

talking about reasoning , .... its what forums in the democary game are all about , .....

**BigFree** · May 9, 2003, 05:35

Panag, you did start this, don't say otherwise, you just make yourself look even more foolish(if that's possible).

Now That I'm replying to you this many times, I'm not so sure I don't look foolish for spending this much time on your nonsensical posts/arguments. I have a sneaky suspicion that you are only intersted in your post count and not in the content of your posts. I therefor refuse to help you spam any further by withdrawing from this "argument (if one could call such a one sided affair an "argument")

Don't have a nice day!

**Panzer32** · May 9, 2003, 09:22

oh brother

Lets just try to ignore those people who bug us...

**Shiber** · May 9, 2003, 10:59

Panag, you are a true demagogue.

According to your posts, you ASSUME that if there was a run-off between standard and huge, all those who voted for large would vote for huge in the run-off.
Tsk, tsk...
Standard got twice as many votes as any other option. Deal with it.

As for your senseless remarks regarding the democratic aspect of this game, it's true that standard didn't pass 50%, but in a poll with 5 different options, it doesn't matter because it is not required. The requirements for a map size to be chosen are (AFAIK) a discernable majority (which standard got - almost 50%, and twice as many as any other option), not a special majority (>50%).
You're basically manipulating numbers and trying to form a "tyranny of the minority".

P.S. Why does it even matter to you what map size we play? You haven't even applied to any of the teams yet (AFAIK) - are you even going to PLAY this map, or are you just here to annoy and tell us how we should play our game?

**Shiber** · May 9, 2003, 11:23

In any case, you're free to start a non-official run-off poll between Standard and Huge any time. As long as the poll is objective (the options are Standard and Huge and the first post in the thread is objective, and is not written to persuade the voters either way), I don't think anyone would mind.
If Huge wins, I'm confident that the people would respect the result of your run-off poll; I promise that I would, anyway. Whereas if Standard wins, you'll have to be my personal slave for three months. What do you say, is it a bet?

**Panag** · May 9, 2003, 13:54

Originally posted by Shiber
Panag, you are a true demagogue.

According to your posts, you ASSUME that if there was a run-off between standard and huge, all those who voted for large would vote for huge in the run-off.
Tsk, tsk...
Standard got twice as many votes as any other option. Deal with it.

As for your senseless remarks regarding the democratic aspect of this game, it's true that standard didn't pass 50%, but in a poll with 5 different options, it doesn't matter because it is not required. The requirements for a map size to be chosen are (AFAIK) a discernable majority (which standard got - almost 50%, and twice as many as any other option), not a special majority (>50%).
You're basically manipulating numbers and trying to form a "tyranny of the minority".

P.S. Why does it even matter to you what map size we play? You haven't even applied to any of the teams yet (AFAIK) - are you even going to PLAY this map, or are you just here to annoy and tell us how we should play our game?

what does it matter on what size we play , it does , cause we are going to be looking on it , ....

oh , and btw , as for the rest dont bother , ....

**Togas** · May 9, 2003, 14:06

Originally posted by Shiber
P.S. Why does it even matter to you what map size we play? You haven't even applied to any of the teams yet (AFAIK) - are you even going to PLAY this map, or are you just here to annoy and tell us how we should play our game?

I absolutely agree.

Panag, you need to stop nagging until you've picked a team and actually committed to the game.

--Togas

**Panag** · May 9, 2003, 14:24

Originally posted by Togas

I absolutely agree.

Panag, you need to stop nagging until you've picked a team and actually committed to the game.

--Togas

hi ,

nope i dont , ....

see trips post , .....

and that has nothing to do with the map , .....

have a nice day

**Master Zen** · May 9, 2003, 14:36

panag,

you have demonstrated a total lack of seriousness, not only here but in other threads. You have also demonstrated that your intention in life seems simply to start arguments you know you can't win, and you can't even back up just for the sake of seeing what others respond. For someone who is not involved in the game, (and if intends so will likely find no team to be invited into precisely because of this lack of seriousness) I find your posts to be a niusance to the debate, rather than a help.

For this reason panag, personally I am ignoring any and all of your posts relevant to the PTWDGII and invite others to do the same. It is a waste of server space to respond to your BS and all it does is invite you to increase your post count which is probably the intention behind it all.

BigFree, Togas, and Shiber. Don't even argue with a rock, we have better things to plan and better people to discuss them with.

-MZ

**Shiber** · May 9, 2003, 14:42

Originally posted by Master Zen
Don't even argue with a rock

The server space argument convinced me.

I don't want to see 'Poly going down again for maintenance just because of Panag!

**Panag** · May 9, 2003, 14:50

Originally posted by Master Zen
panag,

you have demonstrated a total lack of seriousness, not only here but in other threads. You have also demonstrated that your intention in life seems simply to start arguments you know you can't win, and you can't even back up just for the sake of seeing what others respond. For someone who is not involved in the game, (and if intends so will likely find no team to be invited into precisely because of this lack of seriousness) I find your posts to be a niusance to the debate, rather than a help.

For this reason panag, personally I am ignoring any and all of your posts relevant to the PTWDGII and invite others to do the same. It is a waste of server space to respond to your BS and all it does is invite you to increase your post count which is probably the intention behind it all.

BigFree, Togas, and Shiber. Don't even argue with a rock, we have better things to plan and better people to discuss them with.

-MZ

hi ,

at least i dont post insults or remarks on other posters that are grabbed out of the blue , ...

and no , postcount has nothing to do with a map we shall be facing for a couple of months , .... if you cant see the point of standing up for your ( read ones ) believs , well then dont even bother to play civ , .....

talking about being serious , looking at a map that you find to small a while from , well most people would find that something serious , ....

there is no need to become personal or lewd , ....

bye

**Shiber** · May 9, 2003, 14:57

There's a Hebrew saying that tells not to put an obstacle in front of a blind man.
I for one intend to ignore Pagan, but it'd be a lot easier if he was banned from this forum.
Is it technically possible to ban a certain user from a non-restricted forum?

**FrustratedPoet** · May 9, 2003, 15:03

These arguments are much less irritating when half the posts are

This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]

.

It's the electronic equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and shouting "LaLaLaLa, I'm not listening to you!".

**Panag** · May 9, 2003, 15:05

Originally posted by Shiber
There's a Hebrew saying that tells not to put an obstacle in front of a blind man.
I for one intend to ignore Pagan, but it'd be a lot easier if he was banned from this forum.
Is it technically possible to ban a certain user from a non-restricted forum?

there is a certain saying , dont post bilbul baitsin

you still ignore the fact that the topic is the map , .....

and my name is not pagan , i resent such use but its panag , ...

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