Reign of Modo

[Modo44]

[ooc]I wil not be mentally capable of playing this or responding until tomorrow afternoon. Too much work[/ooc]

Comments on suggested city locations are welcome. Comments on city builds as well. I do not want to go to war. I want to make lots of Workers, a new city, and tech parity with neighbours. Talk away.

[Paddy]

* Kampaku Paddiock Taronga enters Daimyo Modo's Palace

It is good to see you Lord

May your reign be one of enlightenment and prosperity for the peoples of the clan.

[ormuzd]

I agree we should keep expanding and go to war after this

I would not build the city near the capital of Osaka - we could take it later. I like the site east of our capital and this would could our neighbours. After this settle the rest of the lands maybe with the purpose to get the insense

[McMeadows]

city spot 22 from Fragrant Harbour, adjusted 2 from there. I would also like to see a city site at 221 from Bull Wheat

[Modo44]

We have time to discuss cities, as this Daimyo will probably be able to make just a single new one.

I plan to put a city either on the Hill north of Bull Wheat, or on the Hill north-west of Bull Wheat. My first choice is Bull Wheat 88, to bring fresh water to that Wheat.

Taking a look at our military, and the current builds (Granaries), I doubt we will be able to go to war any time soon. I suggest we keep REXing, and even bow down to some demands to remain undisturbed. Carefully noting whom to punish first, of course...

[Modo44]

Partial report

Made a Worker instead of Ashigaru. Then onwards, making a Settler. No point growing the city before we get more luxuries connected. :|

In other news, the Oda showed us two Settler-pairs walking the same path. Had it been one, I might have tried to take it down. Sure enough, they made a city to our north-east.

Researched Masonry, got Sword Smithing and cash from the neighbours for it. Started Invention, even though they already have it.



4 turns down the road. Our Settler is ready, and the Oda entered our territory with a Settler pair.

I suggest we attack that once it walks on flat terrain. I also suggest to move the Settler to Bull Wheat 88.

I think I will make Ashigaru in the capital now, to attack the Oda, and to send them out into the world to make contacts (cheaper techs!).

41 gold, -5gpt, Invention in 5.

Please advise.

[Ljube]

We have iron working already? Well done! Make it a priority to get to that iron and build barracks.

Then we will see about Oda.

[Modo44]

Originally posted by Ljube
We have iron working already? Well done! Make it a priority to get to that iron and build barracks.

It has a different name, but yes, we do. Got it for Masonry.

Do you mean moving the Settler directly towards the Plains tile 3 from the Iron Mountain, or just sending the Settler north, and preparing more quickly? Sending the Settler so far north would take time, but it would claim a large area, keeping the AI out very effectively... I think that is a splendid idea.

Originally posted by Ljube
Then we will see about Oda.

The thing I fear is them moving towards the same source of Iron, and declaring war if I ask them to leave...

[joncnunn]

City locations:

I don't like proposed Bull Wheat 8-8 at all. It's crowds out too much of Bull Wheat and there's no need for irrigating over a hill in that spot given the lake. 8-8-8 is better, but we might prefer 1-2-2 to reaquire our gems.

In fact I don't like any city that is only 2 tiles away from the closest city of ours in this conquest.

Two pile pattern just gives the AI more land, not enough time for new cities to turn into pumps giving how many tribes are in Japan.

[Modo44]

Originally posted by joncnunn
I don't like proposed Bull Wheat 8-8 at all. It's crowds out too much of Bull Wheat and there's no need for irrigating over a hill in that spot given the lake. 8-8-8 is better,

Jon, you propose to settle on a Bonus Grassland in a situation where we already are low on food. The benefit of getting Irrigation faster is just a small thing. The more important issue is getting additional food by not settling on flat land, especially Grassland, especially Bonus Grassland.

Originally posted by joncnunn
In fact I don't like any city that is only 2 tiles away from the closest city of ours in this conquest.

But, fortunately, we base our decisions on things like efficiency, not someone's "like" or "dislike", right?

Originally posted by joncnunn
Two pile pattern just gives the AI more land, not enough time for new cities to turn into pumps giving how many tribes are in Japan.

This is why I think that moving some Settlers ahead of others is necessary (and thanks to Ljube for the idea ). The close cities can be filled in later, as the AI almost never puts cities that close to others (the sites would be virtually guaranteed). Even better if that allows us to grab resources, as can be done with that Iron source to the north using the available Settler.

[Micha]

No question - we NEED iron.

[Addled Platypus]

Indeed, Iron to make conquest easier

[ormuzd]

to get two slaves
to explore more

do we see only one iron source? if so, we need to get it or we will face an enemy we must fight without iron

[Ljube]

It is impossible to fight anyone without iron in this game. Therefore, I suggest a city 8-8 from capital, the one Modo proposed. The other city 8-8-8-8 is also good but seems too far. It's unexplored, but if you feel like you can make it, go for it.

[Modo44]

The city 88 from the capital would be certainly assured if I sent the Settler north, right towards the Iron. The AI always avoids settling directly on someone's border, and the Settler would be there before the Oda can do anything. So, how about moving the Settler to that Plains tile to the nort-north-west (just beside the Iron source)?

For the record, Yamabushis and Samurai Archers do not require Iron, so one can do without. The problem is surviving long enough without having Bushis.