The Return of the King - Emperor Aquavian Lungarius, the Merciless

[roadcage]

What a waste of resources. How many galleys were lost to retrieve the Emperors concubine from Troy?

Why were the ferrys intended to allow stripping of stranded resources (12 attack pieces on Sardinia and 2 attack pieces on Corsica) allowed to be deverted to no end?

Simply put, the attacks of Troy and Artemisium were premature. The true objective of the southern front is achieved with The City now known as Southern Aquarius.

And the two existing Galleys one each at Forum jagjef and Southern Aquarius have a capacity of 8 units per turn which more or less matches our capacity from Italia.

So why are six count'em six Italia cities producing unnecessary galleys?

Suggest as a minimum...
Neopolis and Genua be switched from 1 turn galley to your choice of 2 turn HC or 3 turn LIII

There are 8 empty galleys within 1 turn of either Toe or Messana. Any one of which can service Sicilian shuttle demand. I cannot imagine a rng sring that would sink them all. Therefore the cuirrently rushed galley in Toe be-re-rushed to your choice of HC or LIII

(thankfully there is huge cash hoard available)

Croton, rushed Galley switched to HC in 3 turns

Allow Tarentum rushed galley to complete then switch to garrison, pre-rushing after 1 turn then switching to HC 7,3 rush,7,7,7 =31. Rinse, repeat

Allow Forum jagjef rushed galley to complete then switch to garrison pre-rushing after 2 turns then switching to HC 4,4,2 rush,4,4,4,4,4 = 30. Rinse repeat

We got lots of boats, what we need are units to fill 'em with.

The carpenters are restless.

[Donegeal]

Never one to pull any punches, are you Roady?

However, I have to agree with him about the Galleys. Big deal! Let the Macedons control the waters! What difference is it going to make? The AI doesn't know how to do a proper naval landing so we have/had adaquate defenses on our Islands and the Boot. Besides, our boats only move 3 tiles. Our roads move 4 per movement point! Plus there is no amphibious assult so whatever units we land are stuck. We can get our units there just as fast/faster by land!

[Paddy]

ahh the many differences in how we would all see each situation

[Aqualung71]

I wish to answer these grave charges against the honourable and strategically brilliant rule of the Emperor Aquavian Lungarius

Originally posted by roadcage
What a waste of resources. How many galleys were lost to retrieve the Emperors concubine from Troy?

Why were the ferrys intended to allow stripping of stranded resources (12 attack pieces on Sardinia and 2 attack pieces on Corsica) allowed to be deverted to no end?

Simply put, the attacks of Troy and Artemisium were premature. The true objective of the southern front is achieved with The City now known as Southern Aquarius.

With respect....Crap!

Firstly sir, you are sadly out of touch with the world. The theatre of war has shifted far away from Sardinia and Corsica, and the Ferry Captains grew lazy and useless. The islands are well fortified, and should continue to be.

Macedonian (and for that matter, Persian and Carthaginian) Galleys have ruled the waves for centuries. This is unacceptable. Total Roman domination must include naval successes. We have such huge production abilities that we can not only produce many Galleys within a few short turns, but swamp the Mediterranean and Aegean seas with them, effectively destroying the Macedonian navy. This reduces the chances of landings upon our shores of Spain and western Italy (yeh yeh I know, AI is crap at naval landings, but this is Rome!). Added to that is the shock value of landing troops right in the heart of the Macedonian territories.

If you had only been there when it happened instead of drunk in the pub, you would have seen the pride in the faces of our troops, and the ruthlessness with which they went about their tasks. It was a wonder to behold - the greatest Army in the world doing as they please, where they please, and to whom they please. That, my friend, can never be usurped by mechanics!

Bottom line is, we have so much production capacity and so much cash (I refrained from rushing too many units, simply because I didn't need them!), that we can do whatever we please. Actually, the only reason we may start to run short on units is because we keep generating MGL's to soak them up into Armies. I formed about 5 or 6 Armies during my reign!

Originally posted by Donegeal
However, I have to agree with him about the Galleys. Big deal! Let the Macedons control the waters! What difference is it going to make?

All the difference in the world, for we are Rome, and we must rule land and sea. Period! Frankly, I am surprised at the former Polyroman Emperor's lack of bravado

Besides, our boats only move 3 tiles. Our roads move 4 per movement point! Plus there is no amphibious assult so whatever units we land are stuck. We can get our units there just as fast/faster by land!

Not true. It is clearly faster to move our units across the Aegean to the Greek mainland, than north through Italy and down through Greece. Remember that our best production cities are in the south of Italy And now we have secured a port on the Greek mainland, the risk of losing Galleys is minimised.


As a general comment, it is sad that recent glorious Emperors of Rome seem to have lost their spirit of leadership and, dare I say it, their courage. Perhaps they have become too comfortable with the perks offered by the Senate Chamber.

It is also interesting that one who has in former times acted as the nemesis of the Emperor Aquavian Lungarius, the Wise and Honourable Emperor Modo, has on this occasion declined to criticise my reign. Emperor Modo is a man of action, and as my immediate predecessor I am proud to call him my partner in this multi-frontal desolation of the Macedonians

Long Live Rome

Long Live the Emperor Maximus Meadae

[Modo44]

Originally posted by Aqualung71
It is also interesting that one who has in former times acted as the nemesis of the Emperor Aquavian Lungarius, the Wise and Honourable Emperor Modo, has on this occasion declined to criticise my reign. Emperor Modo is a man of action, and as my immediate predecessor I am proud to call him my partner in this multi-frontal desolation of the Macedonians

Would be even more fun with Berserks, but one does what one can.

[joncnunn]

I'm in agreement with Road Cage and Donegal.

Capturing the last Macedonian city will wipe out Macedonians entire fleet of Galleys.

Most of Macedonias cities are firmly on the contentant of Europe.

Originally posted by Donegeal
Never one to pull any punches, are you Roady?

However, I have to agree with him about the Galleys. Big deal! Let the Macedons control the waters! What difference is it going to make? The AI doesn't know how to do a proper naval landing so we have/had adaquate defenses on our Islands and the Boot. Besides, our boats only move 3 tiles. Our roads move 4 per movement point! Plus there is no amphibious assult so whatever units we land are stuck. We can get our units there just as fast/faster by land!

[Aqualung71]

Originally posted by joncnunn
I'm in agreement with Road Cage and Donegal.

Capturing the last Macedonian city will wipe out Macedonians entire fleet of Galleys.

Bah humbug, you pussies have no sense of adventure

[Donegeal]

Never one to pull any punches, are you Aqua?

[Modo44]

He is right, though. We have so much excess production and cash, we can do as we please. Literally.

Believe me, I would be the first one to oppose such adventures, had we not the strength to pull them off with ease. I am rather careful when planning attacks.

[joncnunn]

I don't think we can simply win by hiting return every single turn yet.

We're about 1000 points below where we need to be to win histographically if we don't hit domination, mostly because of histographic being an average.

We need to conquer the Macedonians to increase our share of the worlds population.

Originally posted by Modo44
He is right, though. We have so much excess production and cash, we can do as we please. Literally.

[joncnunn]

Possible goal for the next Emperor: Capture all of those wonders the Macedonians built that are rightfully ours.

[Modo44]

Originally posted by joncnunn
We need to conquer the Macedonians to increase our share of the worlds population.

This is what I meant. With the current potential of the main lands, we can conquer the whole world with ease. It would take extreme stupidity (or even direct sabotage) to just slow us down, let alone do real damage. Those few Galleys, or the small amount of diverted production could not have hurt us at all, even if completely lost (which was not the case, if you failed to notice ). No point whining about that, really.

[ChrisiusMaximus]

How come every time a member of the Aquavian lungarius family runs the Empire we end up with this kind of yakety yak ?

As rightly stated by the outgoing emporer it is indeed noted that Senator modo has on this occasion not been seen to slate the aforesaid Emporers rule.


Hmmmmm one wonders what strange and murky political goings on may have been occuring here ?

Oh well whatever the outcome, lungarious receives the maximus for his brave efforts and his wonderous results !! It was indeed good work to have captured those island cities and gain a second southern front

[marcuspeddle]

Helen of Troy was ravaged by a Roman general in 55AD? She must be pretty old and wrinkled. He's welcome to her.

[Addled Platypus]

I see nothing wrong at all with the motives or stratagies with
Emperor Aquavian Lungarius

We all can play with the forces and economy of Rome as we see fit, as long as the goals are met or exceeded

Most excellent work Emperor