Macedon in GA?

[joncnunn]

As I recall, Herridan's Wall is the only Industrious GW in this conquest.

[Modo44]

The more important it becomes. Well, let's hope our new Emperor does a good job securing it.

[conmcb25]

It looks like we are leaning towards alliance here.

Since Im going to begin playing today iof you have any more comments on this issue its time to post them

[Aqualung71]

I will not veto an alliance with Macedonia, only because it prevents them from allying with Carthage against us. I doubt however, that such an alliance will last the 20-turn term, since we will surely make peace with Carthage within 10 turns.

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by Modo44
It's tricky either way, without the war between Macedonia and Persia (thanks Paddy ). I'd risk the 20 turns alliance. After that we should be well defended wih Legions III. Err, scratch that, we should have some armies with Legions III.

I say do it:

• Alliance with Macedon against Carthaginians, all their 619 gold plus 3gpt - we give Military Training
• Monarchy and World map from Persia - we give Military Training
• Alliance with Egypt against Carthaginians, Construction - we give Military Training.

Eat that, Hannibal.

BTW, put embassies in Celtic and Scythian capitals and try to get them against Carthage as well (Celts are cheap). This should tie many, many resources in useless fighting. By useless I mean: not against Rome.

I agree completely with all three of these suggestions.

Aqua, you're right, we'll probably declare peace with them - but the Macedonians will probably do so, sooner.

I suggest as well we do the best we can do to get the Macedonians a good opportunity to attack Carthage, so they trigger their GA.

The only one of the three alliances we might reconsider is Egypt; they are a usefully weak civ that we might ally with the Macedonians against as well, to give them an easier target to attack (geographically easier)...

[Modo44]

Actually, with Cavalry, Carthage bacomes very close to Egypt, all of a sudden. While for Macedonians, they'd have to go through Persia, who might not appreciate that.

[snoopy369]

Don't they have ships? Or am I somehow confused? I seem to recall the Greeks having boats And I'm sure they could manage somehow ... I certainly considered attacking Egypt in a few of my games, but who knows...

[Modo44]

You know the AI, don't you? They might have ships, but if they don't have amphibious units, it doesn't really help them. Having a superior cavalry OTOH...

[snoopy369]

Hmm, that's annoying. No, I hadn't really paid attention to that part of the AI - I rarely have an AI I worry about past the point in which water-borne combat is reasonable ... roman scenario included I hadn't really noticed they don't attack w/o amphibious units...

[Modo44]

Oh, they do "attack". You get like 1-2 ships unloading their cargo once every 10 turns or so. Sooo much danger.

The point is, with such small numbers only amphibious units can make a real damage. And the AI will still move the bulk of it's forces by land, if only a route exists.

[snoopy369]

Right. But, if they take even two or three hoplites, we get the GA we wanted ...

[Modo44]

Well, you don't have to convince me. I would have allied with them. But no poll was there to vote. Oh well, better luck next time.

[Paddy]

this thread is closed

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