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    We might as well get organized here as well....but I am going outta town tomorrow until monday so I will leave that up to someone else

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    Citizens of Feudality
    1) General Locus
    2) Uber KruX
    3) Nuclear Master
    4) Ennet
    5) MrWhereItsAt
    6) Tarquinius
    7) jagjef
    8) Gamecube64
    9) Thrumble
    10) GhengisFarb

    Fellow citizens of Feudality, welcome to our first council meeting.

    Feudalityis by and far the best city in the entire Mayan empire. Our entire city will be nearly corruption free, which will grant every citizen of the city their full tile's value. Our city also has extrememly productive tiles. the floodplain tiles in the SouthWest are rich in food, and will allow our city to grow exponentially. The hills to the East are average tiles, which will eventually provide above-average prouction, and average trade and food. The gem-mountain tiles will provide shields and commerce.

    Together, the tiles of Feudality will create a large, highly productive city with massive amounts of trade. We shall all profit from the gloriousness of our home city.

    I would propose that we build a settler, and only open it up for auction from people within our city limits. We could then build the city in an overlapping area, and ensure that none of those other lords will get a piece of our glorious city. It's bad enough we have to deal with Farb.

    Utilizing such a system, I would propose we create "suburbs" of Feudality. These suburbs would be tightly spaced (2 spaces between cities), and would overlap in such a way as to provide every citizen of Feudality votes in multiple cities just from owning their initial tile.

    I would like to run for Mayor of Feudality. My priorities would be:

    Growth
    Expansion
    Improvement of Terrain
    Production
    Military
    Economy
    Last edited by Inverse Icarus; July 8, 2004, 02:30.
    "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
    - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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    • #3
      Which direction would you propose we expand with the Settlers first?

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      • #4
        Well, you've got my vote. I propose after we get a couple of cities out we give one worker to every citizen of Feudality (that can support one). This will make tile improvement quick and we could sell their actions to other cities for $$$. Long live capitalism!
        I changed my signature

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GhengisFarb
          Which direction would you propose we expand with the Settlers first?
          I would propose the first suburb be 3,3,3 of Feudality.

          City-wise, it would have access to an alreay improved floodplain, 2 of the gem-mountains, and some hills, in addition to grasslands and forests.

          Feudal-wise, it would benefit the following citizens of Feudality by giving them influence in another city:

          1) Uber Krux
          2) Nuclear Master
          3) jagjef
          4) Gamecube64
          5) Ennet

          That is the maximal number of lords that can be satisifiede with one settler, without doing insanely tight spacing (1 tile between cities is not optimal IMHO).

          I'm sure I can count on the votes of you four

          The second suburb would most likely be westwardly, capable of improving the economies of MWIA and Tarquinius. If we opted for some 1-tile spacing, it could also satisfy Gen Loc, but as stated before I am against such tight spacing.

          I am sorry to say that I do not believe I can accomodate Thrumble with a suburb. There are only two possible spots for it: 3,3 of Serf's Up, which is within the culture radius of thaqt city (I am unsure of rules against colonizing in another city's radius are) or 2,2 of Feudality, which is again, too tightly spaced for my blood.

          Sidebar: what happens if we build a city on an owned tile? or can't we?
          Last edited by Inverse Icarus; July 8, 2004, 11:54.
          "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
          - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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          • #6
            You got my vote on the settler issue! As to the location of the new Suburb.

            Seeing you as a good choice to the post of Town Eldar, you'll have my vote there too
            but economy should really prior military for now

            PS. I'll be gone to northeren Sweden and then Spain and i'll be needing someone to watch my intresst meanwhile.. any citizen of Futility up to this task?
            Proud member of the PNY Brigade
            Also a proud member of the The Glory Of War team on PtW-DG

            A.D 300, after 5h of playing DonHomer said: "looks like civ2 could be a good way to kill time if i can get the hang of it :P"

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            • #7
              So I am to be left in the cold? Or can we come up some other way to accomidate me.

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              • #8
                Maby you can get a piece of the first settler to a special price?
                Proud member of the PNY Brigade
                Also a proud member of the The Glory Of War team on PtW-DG

                A.D 300, after 5h of playing DonHomer said: "looks like civ2 could be a good way to kill time if i can get the hang of it :P"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Thrumble
                  So I am to be left in the cold? Or can we come up some other way to accomidate me.
                  I did not mean to "leave you out in the cold", but as stated above it is extremely difficult, if not impossible, for a suburb of Feudality to be in range of your tile.

                  I like Ennet's idea to give you some sort of a break as to the first 8 tiles of the first Suburb, but would like to see it restricted to the tiles that do not overlap with Feudality. That way, you will be getting the same bonus as the rest of us, voting in 2 cities. I don't think yoyu should get the added bonus of another tile within Fudality.

                  I am not sure how tiles are "valued" for initial bids, but I would propose that whatever you bid for a tile in the new suburb be doubled. For example, if you bid $200, your bid would be worth $400, and people would have to compensate for that. This will allow you to get a tile pretty cheap (half price, pretty much).

                  As stated above, it would have to be a tile not already in Feudality's city radius. Please see the attached image, and note that you can bid on any of the green tiles adjacent to the city, that are all green. That leaves you to choose a forest, or a hill.

                  I hope I can now count on your vote for Town Elder

                  If elected, I shall provide a map similar to the following after every "round" is played. Please note that the stats for the other cities have been ignored, but their expanded culture borders have been displayed, to show you where can cannot build / steal land

                  EDIT2: map DELETED because con sucks a lot
                  Last edited by Inverse Icarus; July 9, 2004, 14:35.
                  "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
                  - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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                  • #10
                    *EDIT: MATH DELETED BECAUSE CON SUCKS*

                    I am not sure how supply and demand work in this game, but in my eyes the shields should be worth more than the others when we "split" it. In the event that there is no supply or demand system set up, I would propose we do our best to split the money equally to each player.
                    Last edited by Inverse Icarus; July 9, 2004, 15:39.
                    "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
                    - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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                    • #11
                      According to GF's proposed "money making formula", Feudality would be:

                      ((1 pop) * (1 per capita) + (5 commerce)) * 100 = $600.

                      I really hope there's some sort of supply and demand in the game, and we simply don't pick how much to give each good.

                      *EDIT* Math deleted because con sucks
                      Last edited by Inverse Icarus; July 9, 2004, 15:39.
                      "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
                      - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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                      • #12
                        But your assuming it will be divided evenly. There are more tile owners (votes) with Food, less with Commerce, and even fewer with Shields so might they not vote to give higher percentages to the production types they produce?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by GhengisFarb
                          But your assuming it will be divided evenly. There are more tile owners (votes) with Food, less with Commerce, and even fewer with Shields so might they not vote to give higher percentages to the production types they produce?
                          Indeed, I merely provided that as a sample. We can divide it however we like. I was not interested in giving the food-mongers the idea of banding together against the shield-commerce alliance.

                          Also, if GF decides to sell his goods in our lovely city, the prices per good will go down. This is an incentive AGAINST high-food pricing
                          "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
                          - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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                          • #14
                            Farb's rule clarification: We don't get to own water tiles. Sorry.
                            "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
                            - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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                            • #15
                              Uber, I propose that we work together as Town Elder. Otherwise, we will have an election on our hands. What do you say?

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