When starting?

[GodKing]

Just thought I would ask, when are we going to start this game?

I would say we start on April 27th. That should be enough time to finish all this prelim stuff, and yet close enough to maintain interest.

Will term X carry over as term 1, or should we hold elections first?

[UnOrthOdOx]

Since I am leaving town for some time next week, I vote on new elections. I signed up for one month, not two.

[GodKing]

Guess that solves that question, now all we need is a new constitution to decide what the positions are.

[BigFurryMonster]

New Game. New World. New People. New Civ. New Colour.

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New Government.

[OPD]

Originally posted by BigFurryMonster
New Game. New World. New People. New Civ. New Colour.

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New Government.

and a new avatar for all.

[Kuciwalker]

Nope. I like mine

[Gramphos]

So, when is it going to start?

[MrWhereItsAt]

What to do about the Constitution is giving me a headache. I had hoped that some consensus could be reached by now or that a brilliant idea would come to me. It hasn't.

As far as I'm concerned, further delay is out of the question. The last polls to post are difficulty and opponents. Then nominations, elections and play. We thus have two choices.

1. Use existing Constitution This is IMO far too bulky for the start game, but we don't need to look at the thing for ages anyway. Possible in the short (one - two terms) term.

2. Do things through informal agreements whilst those who want change look at the rules and get a working set of them up quickly. This is what I would ideally like, but likely unacceptable to a large number here who clearly want rules.

Thus I suggest we keep what we have until we can sort out some changes. Things will be so simple early on that we will hopefully avoid the problems people asociate with parts of the current NewCon. OK?

[CiverDan]

I agree. It is too bulky for the start. Who needs RA's when there is only 1 city, etc. We should use a simplified of the existing one until it become pratical to use the "real" one.

[Hot Mustard]

Similar to what the RP PtWDG team is doing, we could simply name the 'President' our Despot, and add the rest once we hit Republic.

[Master Zen]

sounds like a good idea, it shouldn't be a democracy if there really isn't one in the game. More fun for roleplayers too.

speaking of new avatars...

[Kuciwalker]

/me wants to be the dictator of the world when he grows up

[Aggie]

MWIA, i suggest we go with suggestion #2. For the first part of the game it will do. As far as the constitution goes lets have 5 positons Pres,VP,Domestic,Foreign,SMC
However, may I suggest that the Prez be a "strong Pres" until at least monarchy. He and all the other must get elected, but other than that can do as desired. This doesn't have the checks and balances of a true "constitution", but in the end elections are the true check and balance on a leader. I actually would propose the following.
1) Until monarchy other elected postion are advisory
2) During Monarchy the leader must take their advice but they can do as they desire.
3) In republic we basically bring in a full constitution.
I do suggest a no confidence vote as an option to remove a leader in the early game, kind of a coup.
Aggie

[Panag]

Originally posted by Aggie
MWIA, i suggest we go with suggestion #2. For the first part of the game it will do. As far as the constitution goes lets have 5 positons Pres,VP,Domestic,Foreign,SMC
However, may I suggest that the Prez be a "strong Pres" until at least monarchy. He and all the other must get elected, but other than that can do as desired. This doesn't have the checks and balances of a true "constitution", but in the end elections are the true check and balance on a leader. I actually would propose the following.
1) Until monarchy other elected postion are advisory
2) During Monarchy the leader must take their advice but they can do as they desire.
3) In republic we basically bring in a full constitution.
I do suggest a no confidence vote as an option to remove a leader in the early game, kind of a coup.
Aggie

hi ,

so , in short , we risk facing a despot till a king , ......

no thanks , we should be democrazy all the way from the start

have a nice day

[Kuciwalker]

Uh, panag, I don't think ANYONE wants to vote on whether we move the worker north or east, or some such. It's just too inefficient and stupid.