Persia, oh Persia

[Panag]

hi ,

Aro , we shall need a large map of the terrain we are after to plan , .....

could you do it

have a nice day

[roadcage]

BFM, this is already addressed in other replies above.

Panag, a map would be nice for explanations, but it is not needed for planning. The in-game GUI is all I need to do planning.

[Aro]

It's possible, panag... But I'm not inclined to sign any RoP right now, without a clear majority in the Senate. Could some Senator post a poll or something? In any case, I can't do this in the chat. Should we postpone the chat because of that?
I like the roadcage plan, but there's some polemic about it... Many Senators don't want any war now, and we need more info about how this can affect war weariness, approval rate and the WLPD's.

[roadcage]

Regarding war weariness, it is determined civ by civ. Our last Persian activity was what 800 years ago? There is no outstanding war weariness with Persia.

I estimate that Persia might have upwards of 10 units. If we killed them all in their territory, it would be insignificant to what we had with Germany.

I figure maybe 5 in each city. Look at the plan. There is ww potential for one turn only and that would only be for the units killed at Hamadan. The Units in the other Persian City would be killed on the demise turn and never figured in.

[Aro]

I'm for it, roadcage, I like the plan. I also used to be a builder in the past, not anymore...
But we need the Senate approval, it's in the CoL.
This means postpone the chat. Should we?

[roadcage]

If you want to 'handle' Persia, yes.

-edited rest is moot

Ssgt roadcage (retired)

[Togas]

I like this plan. I would post this poll for you, but I'm a Judge.

To post a poll you need only "create new thread" write this text in the thread, and at the bottom is an option to attach a poll to the thread. Click on that option and enter in the # of options (3) that you want.

On the next screen it will ask you to enter in the details of your poll. Be sure to set it for 72 hours. Then submit the new poll. It's relatively easy to do.

--Togas

[joncnunn]

Roadcage, the way I'm looking at the CoL, you or any other Regional Governor could post that bill.

Ironic that an RG can post bills the DM can't; isn't it?

[Aro]

This chat need to be postponed, no doubts about it (we have already partial plans for workers integration, but we still missing some of the RA's orders under that new situation), and we surely will have an interesting discussion about a new war. The SMC have to plan it...
The FAM Shiber is postponing his orders too. As soon the poll is posted, I'll schedule a new date and time, respecting the 72 hours limit. I'll post this announcement in the threads about the chat.

[roadcage]

-edited, now moot, the Poll is up

[roadcage]

Please note that there is HUGE Corps of Engineers involvement especially in 1360. Therefore it is essential that road and rail support be done in conjunction with SMC and ordinary tile improvements be done later in the turns. This is essentially the opposite of our recent practice.

[joncnunn]

Standing orders for term 8:

2. Clean up all polution inside our cultural boundary as it appears as soon as possible.

3. Workers not specifly requested for other use by my orders or RGs can be used by SMC to support the war effort via building road /rail in friendly and neutral territory or else forming a wall of workers to prevent landings. They may also be used to improve tiles in our empire at the discretion of the highest ranking DM RG present at the chat and/or the President.

Also, the 24 native workers in reserve for polution & the 6 in reserve for Feropolis should be able to handle the road/rail network easily.

[Thud]

I strongly denounce this plan as completely unessecary warmongering, that exposes us to far greater risk than benefit, and is simply asking for us to be plunged into another unwanted and ill advised war!

Long have we stood idly by while the warmonger's in Apolytonia led us blindly into war after war. Too long. And now, we are so far gone that the warmongers beleive they can lead us into war without even needing to spread their 'we need the benefit' propaganda! And I say, No More! This time, we shall not idly stand by while our sons die for a war without cause!

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by Thud
This time, we shall not idly stand by while our sons die for a war without cause!

Who is this "we"?

[Meshelic]

I would like to comment on this further, but I am particularly busy today, however, I will post my opinions and possible plans this evening, Pacific Time.