Our plans following the war

[roadcage]

That is why I like the suggestion posted in the science advisor thread dedicating ferripolis to the SS build. It will prolong the build, but it will make the MA much more exciting as we "argue" about espionage missions and sabotage as the AI adds SS parts to thier own SSs.

As the author of the OCSSC post, I feel the need to jump in here. OCSSC will not slow down the launch date. That has to be atleast 41 turns into the modern age due to the 4 turn tech limit. I wrote that post partially in jest, partially to show the unbelievers just how important it was to enable Ferropolis, partially to show just how feeble the Civ3 space ship is when compared to the Civ1 and Civ2 versions, and finally to demonstrate the game (fun) destroying nature of the 4 turn tech minimum.

With the current game set-up, any city that can produce 160 shields net of corruption and waste can meet the OCSSC requirement. (Only an Iron Works city can do it.) There are 2 640 shield (4 turn) parts, 4 320 shield (2 turn) parts, 4 160 shield (1 turn) parts, 1 500 shield (4 turn) small wonder for a total of 24 turns of production in the challenge. Still too easy, so we will add the UN, 1000 shield (7 turn) wonder to the challenge. This makes a total of 31 turns. We have to wait 8 turns into the modern age for tech reasons. That's a total of 39 turns identified. There are 10 techs or 40 turns + 1 for that last space ship part and launch.

The OCSSC Tech order is:
Rocketry
Space Flight
---(Apollo and then Engine,Cockpit,Docking))
Ecology
Synthetic Fibers
---(Exterior,Stasis,Storage)
Computers
Fission
---(UN)
Super Conductor
---(Life Support, Fuel Cells)
Sattelites
---(Thrusters)
Nuclear Power
Laser
---(Party Lounge)

The OCSSC 160 net shield build order is relative to Modern Age turns:
01-08 anything you want to finish on turn 08
09-12 Apollo Project Small Wonder
--- Ferropolis may only require 3 turns here more wealth
13-16 Engine
17-18 Cockpit
19-19 Docking
20-23 Exterior
24-25 Stasis
26-26 Storage
27-33 UN Great Wonder
--- Ferropolis may only require 6 turns here more wealth
34-35 Life Support
36-36 Fuel Cells
37-38 Thrusters
39-40 Wealth
41-41 Party Lounge

Please note that there were still 2 wealth turns in the sequence and probably 2 more due to Ferropolis shield count.

And for those too remember, Civ1 and Civ2 required 32 80 shield structures, 16 160 shield components, and 12 320 shield modules for a full 40K landing party launch.

And yes, I have a use for Na'rmer. He rushes the Computers enabled Great Wonder on turn 25. The rest of our nation will need all the Research Labs it can get to keep Ferropolis tech enabled.

And I say to Firaxis: Why oh why did you down scale the space ship so.

[Meshelic]

Aro and I have decided that regardless of how this game turns out in the end, we're going to keep the save and invade Japan. The Japanese need to be punished.

Unless I can get support for this in the Senate, it will have to be played after the game is over...

[Aro]

Wow! roadcage, this is amazing!

[roadcage]

Aro and I have decided that regardless of how this game turns out in the end, we're going to keep the save and invade Japan. The Japanese need to be punished.

Yes, we must climb that mountain. We climb not only because it is there, but because it is in Japan!

Reporting for duty.
Ssgt roadcage (retired)

[Panzer32]

Originally posted by Meshelic
Aro and I have decided that regardless of how this game turns out in the end, we're going to keep the save and invade Japan. The Japanese need to be punished.

Unless I can get support for this in the Senate, it will have to be played after the game is over...

I support it!!

[roadcage]

More immediatly, I would suggest finishing off Xerxes. He is backward technologicly and only has two cities (we could raze them for all I care). He is a sore on our diplomatic butts because he is and always will be furious with us because of the butt whipping we put on him about 1000 years ago. I don't think he would vote for us in a Secratary General vote. Lets go kick his ass!

I have said similar things in the past. Except that those two cities should be saved as staging points for the coming Ivory War.

Greece, Aztec, and England have Ivory that is in range. Greek Ivory can be staged from the (soon to be) former Persian lands. Aztec Ivory can be staged from Heidelberg and the afore mentioned Persian holdings. English Ivory can be staged from the (soon to be) former German city of Nuremburg.

Only one of these campaigns need be fought. We simply need to be prepared for which ever Ivory holdings the Senate determines is in our future.

Ssgt roadcage (retired)

[joncnunn]

The following civs would never vote for us in a Sec General vote:

1. Germany
2. Persia
3. Japan
4. Zulu
5. Rome

In addition, the Aztecs and China are both in the highly unlikely that they would vote for us category.

This only leaves Greece, England, Irq., Russia, and India as countries that may vote for us if they themselves aren't eligible.

[joncnunn]

From the border persecptive, annexing England is the only country that would decrease the size of our border.

From the geo-political perspective, the most likely countries to be eligbile for Sec General by the time it's buiilt are Japan and Greece followed by an outside shot for the Irq and Russia if one of them annexes most of Rome / Babylon.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Meshelic
Aro and I have decided that regardless of how this game turns out in the end, we're going to keep the save and invade Japan. The Japanese need to be punished.

Unless I can get support for this in the Senate, it will have to be played after the game is over...

hi ,

with a bit of planning we can start to get back at them and teach that species a lesson or two before the end , ....

"lets go bonk some heads"

Roadcage , great info

have a nice day

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by donegeal
I don't think he would vote for us in a Secratary General vote. Lets go kick his ass!

Not a bad strategy, maybe we should do this in real life?

If France won't vote to support global civilization on the UN security council we should just go over there and kick their .......

[roadcage]

With Persia entering a war with Greece, most of what I said about the Ivory War is moot since Persia cannot survive. This leaves England as the only practical source. Need to develop suitable 'LIZard' removal strategy. Must include capture of that little island for Japanese staging.

[Arnelos]

Originally posted by GhengisFarb

Not a bad strategy, maybe we should do this in real life?

If France won't vote to support global civilization on the UN security council we should just go over there and kick their .......

What a waste of time that would be

Don't worry... France will sell out, they always do. As my father has told me before... "It always worries us when France is on our side because they always sell us out. But when France is opposed to us, we don't worry much at all, because they can always be bought."

Gee... I wonder how the FIRST resolution passed...

It's telling to note that the German newspapers were already worrying about France selling out Germany the SAME DAY that France and Germany supposedly "agreed" to stand united against war with Iraq...

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by Arnelos


What a waste of time that would be

But it would be fun.

Maybe the US and France could have a Hundred Minutes War.