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    Now that The Great War is coming toward a close, we need to chose a path that well allow Apolytonia to continue to prosper as Modern Times approaches. First and formost, we must do two things. We must build finish building hospitals and factories in all our cities, and reintergrate workers in these cities to make them productive in peace and war. We must build our infantry to defend our cities and all our annexed territory from the evil Romans and Germans.

    After that is complete. We have too choices, We can continues our warmongering ways, or aim towards technological advancement while maintaining enough military to swiftly punish any who dare attack us.

    As for for myself, I could only support war in the future against England or Greece, due to our Palace and FP location. I do not support any other war initiated by us. If some us else declares on our continent, by all means let them have it. I would still prefer to stay out of overseas conflicts, as invasions are very time and resource consuming to prepare for and can take more time than the residents our our Democracy would like.
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  • #2
    I would hate seeing us initiating another war (or provoking war). We are nearing modern times, and the game is getting extremely tedious. In-game, the war we're waging for more than 6 weeks has been swift !
    Our plans to build hospitals and factories weren't delayed THAT much by war - if we count in turns, not in RL time.

    My point is : war is now boring. This is a game, and we should avoid to make it dull, otherwise everybody will lose touch, as many of us are beginning to. We should now aim for a great aim, namely the stars, and reach them ASAP.
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    • #3
      Everything is boring in-game once you are "up" a certain amount. As long as the outcome hangs in the balance, everything is exciting.

      But once you reach that point, I contend that War is the least boring of the options. You do infact actually have to plan the campaigns. You no longer have to plan them well, but that's another story. Next is Diplomatic because you do have to work the AI relations. Everything else is rush build and end turn.

      Now I am not saying building can't be exciting. It is when it matters to the outcome. But every SS victory I have played, there were always scads of turns where I was trying to rush build away several thousand gold per turn of free cash flow. It's far more work than fun.
      I used to be a builder. That was before I played Civ III

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      • #4
        That is why I like the suggestion posted in the science advisor thread dedicating ferripolis to the SS build. It will prolong the build, but it will make the MA much more exciting as we "argue" about espionage missions and sabotage as the AI adds SS parts to thier own SSs.

        Mss
        Remember.... pillage first then burn.

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        • #5
          A way to make the modern age exciting:

          DECLARE WAR ON EVERYONE AND TRY TO WIN VIA CONQUEST.
          Proud Member of the ISDG Apolyton Team; Member #2 in the Apolyton Yact Club.
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          • #6
            Just bee-line for the space-ship already!!!
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            7th President of Apolyton in the 1st Civ3 Democracy Game

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            • #7
              We definitely need a building period, but once we get bombers, carriers, marines, etc. I want D-Day invasions of Shaka and Tokugawa.

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              • #8
                A "unbiased" post:

                You're right, Arnelos. If we want to end the game as soon as we can, this is the correct strategy.

                But I'm very curious about one issue: How should we plan a "D Day"? We have this opportunity, plan a big naval invasion. In a well garrisoned island, with railroads... That invasion will spend many turns, war weariness will no longer be a problem then. The logistics, the strategy, the fleets of carriers, battleships and transports, Marines and all this stuff... (I'm talking about Japan, of course ).
                Just for fun. The Senate has the power to decide what we want to do, surely, but this big invasion could be funny.

                Philosophically, we can go in other direction. Play a game of kindness for the next turns, soft diplomacy and all, including bribes, and risk the UN elections. A challenge, no doubts.

                Or just build the spaceship (as said by Arnelos), and launch the thing. It's a very safe way, I approve that

                But that invasion...

                Edit: Kloreep, cross-post! I was writing this when you posted...
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                • #9
                  Here is my suggestion and what I often do, Beeline as quickly as possible to spacerace victory, however do the upper line after computers. Then while we wait for laser launch our modern armor on somebody. At this point(when we reach it) in the game ww is a non issue as we only have at about 10 turns left in the game so we can go wipe people out if we desire too.
                  Aggie
                  The 5th President, 2nd SMC and 8th VP in the Civ3 Demogame. Also proud member of the GOW team in the PTW game. Peace through superior firepower.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Aggie
                    Here is my suggestion and what I often do, Beeline as quickly as possible to spacerace victory, however do the upper line after computers. Then while we wait for laser launch our modern armor on somebody. At this point(when we reach it) in the game ww is a non issue as we only have at about 10 turns left in the game so we can go wipe people out if we desire too.
                    Aggie
                    I typically do the exact same thing.

                    Bee-line for the spaceship, but build some modern armor and go apesh** on some backward civ to have some fun while I'm waiting for the game to end

                    errr.... I mean spread our most enlightened society to some poor backward country while reaching for the stars.... to show we still care about the poor saps stuck on this planet. Yeah, that's the ticket...
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                    7th President of Apolyton in the 1st Civ3 Democracy Game

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Arnelos


                      errr.... I mean spread our most enlightened society to some poor backward country while reaching for the stars.... to show we still care about the poor saps stuck on this planet. Yeah, that's the ticket...


                      We must kill, maim, slaughter any other civ of the face of the earth and make Apolytonia the biggest largest civ in the world
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Arnelos
                        Bee-line for the spaceship, but build some modern armor and go apesh** on some backward civ to have some fun while I'm waiting for the game to end
                        The REAL Arnelos shows his face!
                        Last edited by Donegeal; January 31, 2003, 10:06.
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                        • #13
                          I agree with the statement that wars, and planning campaigns, are the most exciting parts of the game. I suggest that we focus on building, while preparing to conduct the greatest military invasion ever seen!
                          We need to build the most dreadful force of land units, combined with 4-unit armies of Modern Armor and absolutely terrifying amounts of Radar Artillery units. We need to build the most fearful fleet ever, with AEGIS Cruisers, Aircraft Carriers choked full of Stealth Bombers and Transports loaded with Marines, Modern Armor and Radar Artillery. That would be a force to be proud of.
                          Let's take on Greece! They're strong, and they'll add very productive cities to our empire, which will make this war even more rewarding. In the mean time, if we want to take our revenge on Tokugawa, we can conduct a naval war using Destroyers and Battleships, thus learning and practicing for the real war.
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                          And the truth isn't what you want to see,
                          Close your eyes, and let music set you free..."
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                          • #14
                            Lets declare war on the entire world 5-10 years before we win with the spaceship!
                            Proud Member of the ISDG Apolyton Team; Member #2 in the Apolyton Yact Club.
                            King of Trafalgar and Lord of all Isolationia in the Civ III PTW Glory of War team.
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                            May God Bless.

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                            • #15
                              I keep hearing (ok, reading) that people know we are going to win and want to get this game over with to move to something more challanging. they keep saying that the quickest way to win is by Spaceship. Bull! The quickest way to win is by Diplomacy. I have been reading in the strat forum I saw a thread that explained how to win via Diplomatic victory. Plan on building the UN and sign MPP's with every nation possible, except for the number 2 guy (Japan). Get him to attack us on our soil then call the vote when every blasted nation on the planet is at war with the only other person that could be voted for. But this is longer term.

                              More immediatly, I would suggest finishing off Xerxes. He is backward technologicly and only has two cities (we could raze them for all I care). He is a sore on our diplomatic butts because he is and always will be furious with us because of the butt whipping we put on him about 1000 years ago. I don't think he would vote for us in a Secratary General vote. Lets go kick his ass!
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