Discussion: GLs Committee

[Shiber]

Originally posted by Aro
What about a "GL queue"? This committee could organize some possible queues for any GL. So, if we got one, just consult the queue to see what build or rush first. That queue needs to be updated constantly, and this will be the role of the committee.
Of course the queue (or queues) must be submitted to the Senate by polls, etc.
(I need my legal adviser to extract some sense from this ... )

Good idea!
I propose that we act as follows:

1. Start a discussion thread and discuss what are the options for using a GL.
2. Come up with a list.
3. Start a multi-choice poll, where every citizen can vote for the options that he likes the most.
4. Create a queue, where the first option will be to build the item that received the most votes, the second to build the item with the second most votes and so on...
5. From that point, we can have periodical discussions and multi-choice polls to decide a new queue every, say, two weeks.

[DAVOUT]

Originally posted by Shiber


4. Create a queue, where the first option will be to build the item that received the most votes, the second to build the item with the second most votes and so on...
5. From that point, we can have periodical discussions and multi-choice polls to decide a new queue every, say, two weeks.

A queue does not reflect a choice, but only the order in which the options will be build.

[Shiber]

We've said it before, it doesn't matter much what we use the GL for, since we can build everything ourselves, and since we're not in any dire need for assistance from any great leaders.
The committee and the queue ideas may not be the perfect solution, but at least they could get this issue off of our heads.

[Torkkeli]

I think that if there is nothing significant to do with the leader, there is no reason to stop the turn chat.

By this I mean
1) no Great Wonder to build (the case now)
2) no Palace to jump (the case now)
3) no new armies needed (I think the case now?)

Or maybe if the DM could come up a plan of what to do with a possible leader before the turn chat.
He/She would ofcourse consult the senators before making the decision.

just my 0.02€

[Aro]

Originally posted by Torkkeli

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Or maybe if the DM could come up a plan of what to do with a possible leader before the turn chat.
He/She would ofcourse consult the senators before making the decision.

just my 0.02€

In a certain way, this plan is the queue, and can be implemented by a committee or by the Senate. However, the queue (or plan) can be generic, like you said. An example (lets say, after exhaustive discussions and dozens of threads/polls )

1- Build an Army (no wonders available)
2-Rush a cultural building (war weariness needs, no wonders yet)
3- World Wonder (after "x" turns, we got a tech or something that makes a wonder available)
4- Wow! Another wonder in hand... Rush it!
5- Army again…

....And so on.

We are in such stage of the game, we have a large capacity to "plan ahead" (not "play ahead", please! ).

Just more two "centavos"

[Torkkeli]

Originally posted by Aro

In a certain way, this plan is the queue, and can be implemented by a committee or by the Senate. However, the queue (or plan) can be generic, like you said. An example (lets say, after exhaustive discussions and dozens of threads/polls )

Yep. This could lead to a situation where there are too many polls/threads to be completed before turn chat.
Well it's only so because this is a demo game after all.

Maybe here would be a point to make it a little less demo game (=bureaucratic (sp?)) and give the DM (or other minister) the autohority do what ever he/she wants with the GL.
It would be benefical to the DM's career to consult the senators. After all we have the power to overthrow the DM, don't we?

and another 0.02€

[Aro]

Originally posted by Torkkeli

... After all we have the power to overthrow the DM, don't we?

and another 0.02€

Yes, you have the power.

IIRC, the Senate must impeach the DM first...

Another round of threads, discussions, polls and ... the Court!

[roadcage]

Believe it or not, I think we really do need a standing GL committee. However the purpose of that committee is to be ready to post a shortlist poll of a few options for the senate. It would be advantageous for that poll to be of the multiple all you could support format.

The objective here is to have structure in place so that there is reasonable expectation that the senate can act in a timely manner.

The original proposal called for the committee to actually select the course. This was clearly doomed to failure because everyone wants to be involved in the final decision.

My proposal gets around this. Lets say we make sure that there is reasonable diversity on the committee and the committee is bound to produce a list of the (insert #) most favored options or the actual options if less than (insert #) are offered in the discussion.

I believe that this could work.

What I am uncertain about is how to establish the Committee membership, term of service etc. And naturally, I hereby volunteer to be the warmonger representative.


Ssgt roadcage (retired)

[joncnunn]

Right now, I think the best use of the Great Leaders is to rush the Small Wonders, Wall Street, CIA, and when we've built 5 Hospitals, Battlefield Medicine.

The next Great Wonder requires a modern era tech.

[Shiber]

Roadcage, I have made a similar suggestion before:

Originally posted by Shiber
How about this: we create a committe that would decide on two uses for the next GL that may arise before any turnchat/turnthread takes place, and then posts these two options in the orders thread (as if they were cabinet members giving orders). Should we get a GL during the turnchat/turnthread, the president will halt the game and immediately post a 72 hours poll allowing a choice between the two options that the committee presented.

Anyway, I'm just glad we agree on something.

Originally posted by roadcage
What I am uncertain about is how to establish the Committee membership, term of service etc.

IMHO, we should begin a separate discussion thread and resolve these issues, should enough people voice their interest in the forming of such a committee.

[ManicStarSeed]

Originally posted by Aro

A suggestion:

What about a "GL queue"? This committee could organize some possible queues for any GL. So, if we got one, just consult the queue to see what build or rush first. That queue needs to be updated constantly, and this will be the role of the committee.
Of course the queue (or queues) must be submitted to the Senate by polls, etc.
(I need my legal adviser to extract some sense from this ... )

My two cents.

I really like this idea.

Another idea is that the senat defers the decision to the commitee, but the comittee is responsible for keeping the discussion going and current.

[Panag]

hi ,

one thing is for sure , we need to have plans in advance , ......

the senate should and could vote in advance , with at least two GL's , ....

have a nice GL day