Term 8 President Election

[Togas]

You may choose one of these three candidates for President:

Aggie
Arnelos
Aro

This poll will be open for 3 days.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

They are all good candidates but just to be fair, Aro hasn't had a chance at being President yet.

[Nimitz]

I voted First in all the election polls, cool. Vote arnelos he has done a good job.

[Meshelic]

All of them are great candidates, all of them from differing backgrounds in 'poly!

You've got Arnelos, politician extraordinare -
Aggie, renown and famed military commander - and
Aro, whom I personally have a huge respect for, who also makes the best maps ever

I've already made my choice....I'm very curious to see how this turns out...

[WhiteBandit]

You know guys. I really like every single one of you, so this really isn't fair. I guess I'm going to have to narrow it down somehow.

What can you offer me? Money, food, shelter?

Good luck to every single one of you.

[Meshelic]

Originally posted by WhiteBandit
You know guys. I really like every single one of you, so this really isn't fair. I guess I'm going to have to narrow it down somehow.

What can you offer me? Money, food, shelter?

[Arnelos]

Hey, FINALLY got back online...

My ISP has been down since Saturday night. It's atrociously slow right now, but at least I have access AT ALL.

I'll go answer whatever's new in the campaign thread now.

[Arnelos]

If you still care about this game, vote for Arnelos. At this point, it's really that simple.

If you need this illustrated, however, it might be helpful to outline what each candidate in this race has said in the nomination thread regarding their original intentions behind running for office...

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GodKing started the idea of the President being the dictator in this next election with...

Originally posted by GodKing
I would be willing to do so and be prez if, and only if, nobody else wants to do it.

If I am it, there will be NO turnchats.

If I am it, any missing minister orders I will make judgements, and issue either my own or halt the game.

I will, in essance, be a petty dictator, doing what I want, how I want, when I want, and so forth. That doesn't mean I will intentionally brake any laws or violate the reasoning behind having the demo-game. It just means that I will run it like a person who isn't going to put up with a lot of crap.

If I have a VP who is willing, they will be more than welcome to play the game as a chat every now and then.

Because of how I know I will run this, I strongly advise someone else to run. I would much rather stay a justice for this month.

GK

Aggie, jumping on the idea of being "dictator", posting the following...

Originally posted by Aggie
If no one else wants to be prez, I would consider it, but it would be much the same araingement GK mentioned, except we would have about 1 turnchat a week on the weekends. but during the week we would have a turnthread. Gernerally it would be in the form of a continually moving turn. I'd play when I could a turn post the results and then would do the next turn after input(particularly for the SMC, since the other orders could be done ahead of time).
Aggie

A page or so later, the first post by Aro...

Originally posted by Aro
As a matter of fact, no one is running for Prez right now. Panag didn't accepted yet, the same with Arnelos and Aggie.
If this continues, I'll run for the office myself! It's a menace!

Then, Aro posted again:

Originally posted by Aro
Hehe... As everybody here knows, I'm just kidding. Do you have any idea about how much time a normal turnchat (2~6 hours) could last in my hands? Figure this: I'll be reading the orders in English, translating in my head, thinking in Portuguese, translating, talking with you guys in English, rinse, repeat... sloooowly! 4~10 hours, at a conservative estimate! All this supposing I’ll not do many mistakes…
If I run, Banana will wins. I’ll be ashamed forever.

To remove confusion, and my understanding of the complete lack of any remotely serious candidates:

Originally posted by Arnelos
I am hereby running for President

I have already begun my checking for Vice Presidential candidates and Domestic Minister candidates (one of each at this point). If I can get someone to run for Domestic Minister, I'll do it.

As for other things, I have no problem with Shiber as FAM (I've been trying to get him to run for something for 3 terms now ) or even Meshelic as SMC (though we'll have to watch him closely ).

Aro, as a jest to provoke panag, suggested that he could run with panag...

Originally posted by Aro
Panag, do you want to run? If so, I'll run too! Just for fun... and to give Arnelos some fight.

After two cryptic panag posts, Aro decided to throw his hat in...

Originally posted by Aro
Well... Boys, put our names in the hat! We (Panag and me) are in the race for the presidency!
Man, I hope I can get at least two electors: Arnelos and me.

Then, Aggie tentatively announced he might be running...

Originally posted by Aggie
Tentatively I announce my candidacy for president, its been awhile since we had a contested presidential election and I couldn't ask for anymore excellent opponents.
Aggie

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So, to tally up...

1. The basis of Aro's candidacy is a joke (he stated himself on multiple occassions that his candidacy was not serious) rather than a serious bid for the position.

2. The basis of Aggie's candidacy is GodKing's suggestion that the President need not hold turnchats and that the President might as well just act as the petty dictator of the whole nation rather than being swayed by popular sentiment or potentially annoying legalities. If anyone else were running, we might assume this was just a joke as well. But given that the only reason this guy WASN'T impeached for violating the law last term was that he was already leaving office, we have to take this a little more seriously.

3. The basis of Arnelos' candidacy is really a reaction to the two of the above and a vote to keep the democracy in the democracy game. (1) I'm actually serious about running, (2) I've said I'll actually fill the job description, and, by far most importantly, (3) I've made it clear through both word and action that I have a respect for this democracy.

So, if you still care about this democracy game (I know there are still some of you out there!), vote for me. If not, my opponents seem to be offering enough alternatives to suit your tastes.

I may not enjoy running 6-hour turnchats, but at least I still care enough to do the job right.

[Aro]

Originally posted by Arnelos



...So, to tally up...

1. The basis of Aro's candidacy is a joke (he stated himself on multiple occassions that his candidacy was not serious) rather than a serious bid for the position.

...

...I may not enjoy running 6-hour turnchats, but at least I still care enough to do the job right.

The fact is, the basis of all we're doing here it's a joke (just try to explain all that Apolytonian stuff to your wife, or girlfriend, family, boss, roommates, friends... The answer will be "are you kidding me?" in most cases... ). And fun. Even so, we still care enough to do the job right...

Originally posted by Meshelic

...You've got Arnelos, politician extraordinare...

You're definitely right, Mesh!

[Arnelos]

Look, if people who are playing in this so called "democracy game" have decided that they really just don't want to have a democracy anymore or a game, that's fine. It will give me some spare time on my weekends.

If you guys still want to have a game and still have it be a democracy game though, I remain your only viable candidate.

This happens to be the reason why I'm in the race. I honestly do not believe that either of my opponents is serious about fulfilling the job description of President and keeping this democracy game around.

Aro doesn't seem to be serious about the race AT ALL.

Aggie is serious about being President alright, he's just not serious about playing by the rules or fulfilling his duties.

If either of these guys (or someone else) had made a convincing case in the nomination thread that they were serious about the office, I wouldn't be running. I've had my term. I'm running, in truth, because neither of them ever seriously entered the race (and they still haven't...).

[Aro]

Arnelos, Aggie is serious about the game AND he's very serious about playing by the rules or fulfilling his duties. Don't say that.
I'll quote Panag:

Originally posted by panag


hi ,



have a nice day

Btw, I make jokes about myself all the time... But I'm serious about my duties (here and in RL).

[Aro]

Originally posted by Arnelos

If you guys still want to have a game and still have it be a democracy game though, I remain your only viable candidate.

Arnelos, you are definitively a great candidate. But... only you?
If you prove me that, I'll vote for you (I didn't voted yet )!

[Spiffor]

I guees that, whatever the winner, our cities will all enter WLAD

BTW, I voted Arnelos : he has been a great and involved prez during last term, very willing to give lmuch time for the war turnchats, and very competent in his duties. He was also extremely aware of what happened in this forum, and listened to the citizens of our glorious Democracy.
No offense to Aggie or Aro (who I think will be good at the job), but I simply think Arnelos is the best among these good candidates

[E_T]

Ohhh, this is getting very close to the point of there being wet sticky soil that is flying through the air (mud slinging). I think I'll wait until the it's over before I cast my vote.....

E_T

[Aro]

No mud is needed. We'll be good boys.
After all, if Arnelos or Aggie wins, you guys will get the same: an excellent Prez (both tested!).