Opinion Poll: The next War

[Kuciwalker]

Ok, change my vote to Persia.

[Donegeal]

BAH! This poll is bunk!

At the conclusion of this war, we will be the leader in every aspect of the game, Rome and Germany will no longer be contenders, but we still will need to look out for #2 and #3.

Who are they going to be? They aren't listed in the options.

The Aztec are going to be the #3 civ at the end of this war. They will be buffered from us by both England and what is left of the Germans. They will be hard to get to unless we take Germany to the Aztec border.

The #2 civ will be even more difficult to deal with. Just like in real life, Japan was an isolated island and was backward when met. The Shogun has continued to follow in coping RL by absorbing all the tech out there and prospering with it. After ToE, we will only be 2-3 tech ahead of a civ that has nearly twice as many cities as Germany had when we started this war. I don't have the save with me right now, but if Japan has rubber, we might just have to let him be. If not, then we should load up a massive invasion force of tanks, marines and infantry. Set then is strategic locations around the Island(s) and attack multiple cities all at once. Maybe even sign a ROP with him and invade that way. To h*ll with the UN and diplomatic victory. If done right, we could easily cripple him in one turn, and maybe wipe him out in just a few. Screw the other civs. They will still make LPT deals with us, but won't sign ROP's with us. Fine. If we trounced on the Showgun, the rest of our targets would be on our continent and we won't need ROPs

[aleion]

Tanks our a requiered tech. before we enter combat of any kind. (sorry about posting twice). If we cannot build then we will not win.....at least not with our econamy intact.

[aleion]

Originally posted by Thud
I want to get Zululand for their treachery eventually, but the time is not right. Peace!

Zululand is as I see it our primary taget, this is of course after we have tanks.

[Meshelic]

We don't need tanks to take out the Zulus. They are the weakest nation out there, next to the Persians.

A D-Day in Japan would be a huge undertaking, and could only be accomplished with battleships, bombers, tanks, transports, etc. Otherwise it would be a total disaster. Seaborne invasions are a bit more difficult tactically then invading a neighbor.

However, we may be able to use Zululand as a staging ground (once they are conquered) for a large amphibious assault force , IF we really want to go after Japan. In that case, we could set Old France as a staging point as well, unless we go after the Greeks first and then that's a bit more strategic as well.

Who knows? There's a lot of possibilities out there.
Personally I think we've seen enough war. After the Germans and Romans and this world war is over, we will be even more on top than we were before! Not too mention the German/Roman forces will be completely destroyed. They won't be a threat whatsoever.

[Panag]

hi ,

if we decide to go out to the other side of the world to "civilize" some species , we should make sure that we have a navy that can protect out shores , ......

, something like a coastguard with a sting :thumbs-up:

have a nice day

[aleion]

Originally posted by Meshelic
We don't need tanks to take out the Zulus. They are the weakest nation out there, next to the Persians.

A D-Day in Japan would be a huge undertaking, and could only be accomplished with battleships, bombers, tanks, transports, etc. Otherwise it would be a total disaster. Seaborne invasions are a bit more difficult tactically then invading a neighbor.

However, we may be able to use Zululand as a staging ground (once they are conquered) for a large amphibious assault force , IF we really want to go after Japan. In that case, we could set Old France as a staging point as well, unless we go after the Greeks first and then that's a bit more strategic as well.

Who knows? There's a lot of possibilities out there.
Personally I think we've seen enough war. After the Germans and Romans and this world war is over, we will be even more on top than we were before! Not too mention the German/Roman forces will be completely destroyed. They won't be a threat whatsoever.

You mentioned that we came out on top of the game. Well.....I belive that one war with the Zulu's would do us good. But also as you said who knows.....there ARE infinite possiblitys and situations that could pop-up. People like Togas have a nack for these things. The Zulu's will by our hands or anothers.....Die.

Originally posted by Togas
Those Zulus have it coming.

Send in the tanks and test them against the backstabbing savages.

--Togas

[joncnunn]

Where's the No More Wars for the Rest of the Game option?

I see no need for any additional wars following the destruction of Germany.

[E_T]

In the context of "Have Peace for a while", the While can mean that we can have Peace for as long as the Senate Wishes to have it.

E_T

[aleion]

Originally posted by E_T
In the context of "Have Peace for a while", the While can mean that we can have Peace for as long as the Senate Wishes to have it.

E_T

In other words.....2minutes of peace......

[Meshelic]

Originally posted by aleion



In other words.....2minutes of peace......

It's funny, like roadcage said in the OBJECTIVES thread, Civilization is like a pendulem swinging back and forth, going build-war, build-war, etc....

But the thing I find amusing is that during every small time period of peace, somehow or another we get involved in a war. Being a conquest-type player myself that's not such a bad thing, although it seems that our overall goal is the Space Race.

Pay in mind that except for the "disarming" of Germany, we had not planned to be involved in any really truly major wars, and definetely we weren't predicting a world war would occur. The Romans and Zulu's have basically ensured their death.....and as for the Germans, well it's up to the Senate to decide how far we go with that offensive.....

[Panag]

Originally posted by aleion



In other words.....2minutes of peace......

hi ,

and risking to get our buds kicked , we should rest for a while , build our armies and get new technology , and the same time some other civs shall be getting other techs then us , so ones prepared we can go and get them , ......

have a nice day

[Meshelic]

Originally posted by panag


hi ,

and risking to get our buds kicked , we should rest for a while , build our armies and get new technology , and the same time some other civs shall be getting other techs then us , so ones prepared we can go and get them , ......

have a nice day

We'll be advancing in tech and military for sure, no problem. However, I suppose I'm of the class of people who think that even if the whole world declared war against us, we could still pull it off.

But I agree, we will NEED a period of peace for building, creation of Armies, Wonders, etc. As well as time to station our units in a good defensive/offensive screen. Not to mention prepare for the next war, which I'm sure we all agree will probably happen.

Meshelic

[realpolitic]

Arnelos is right, with Factories and Hoover, we'll double production, and putting 4 workers in each metropolis would give us 33% more than that, and Tanks are even better weapons. After we've built all those improvents, we might generate a surplus of Cavalry sufficent to take England, but only England. I oppose war with the Zulu under these circumstances, because if we have trouble with our navy, building more will distract us from our long range goals.

[Arnelos]

Originally posted by realpolitic
Arnelos is right, with Factories and Hoover, we'll double production, and putting 4 workers in each metropolis would give us 33% more than that, and Tanks are even better weapons. After we've built all those improvents, we might generate a surplus of Cavalry sufficent to take England, but only England. I oppose war with the Zulu under these circumstances, because if we have trouble with our navy, building more will distract us from our long range goals.

Wow, someone read my post