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The present case is a direct consequence of the decision rendered by The Court in case #7 (Civman2000 versus ManicStarSeed) which will remain a summit of an application of the law to the last letter regardless of any other relevant consideration. Although The Court stated
*At the end of term 6 administration, the executive made a few moves within the game that were illegal. The illegality is not an issue, as all who have witnessed what did occur indicate they would have done the same (or similar)*
It also concluded, adopting the plaintiff argument
*The bill in question would remove the right to bring a case of impeachment for the MPPs signed with Russia, Greece, and Japan. This right is protected in the constitution and may not be taken away by a Senate bill.?*
I am therefore using my precious right to bring a case of impeachment for the MPPs signed with Russia, Greece and Japan. I seize this opportunity to express my gratitude to Civman2000 who made all this possible.
I limit this impeachment call to three members of the Cabinet :
- The President, Aggie, who signed the MPPs
- The Vice-President, Togas, who did not provide the President with the pertinent information enabling him not to fall into illegality
- The Foreign Affairs Minister, Arnelos, who identify the illegality but did not succeed in convincing the President.
Although The Court is perfectly aware of the circumstances, I recall hereunder the main texts describing the origin of the case.
The facts were discovered by the public in a report posted by Arnelos on December 14.
(link : http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=70883)
The same day, Togas recognized the facts:
* What Arnelos says is true, and I didn't even take the time to review it.
I was present at part of the turnchat and failed to notice that the bill that authorized the FAM to sign MPPs was limited to only a few nations. I think all of us failed to recognize this. It was suggested by those present at the chat, after the Romans began invading us, that we should sign MPPs with their allies as a means to keep from being ambushed by their alliance. We did this at the same time as we signed the MPPs with Greece (those damned Aztecs demanded 51gpt for a MPPs, so we declined), assuming this was previously authorized.
Frankly, I feel we did the proper strategic move by nullifying the Roman alliances, but what we did was beyond the authorization of the Senate. I ask that the Senate consider if they would have authorized this action to take place. If not, I believe all of us present would humbly submit to any sanctions the Senate or The Court felt were justified.
I was not present for the entire turnchat, and I left prior to the declaration of war by Rome, but as an active participant in the decision to sign those MPPs I will accept responsibility for the decision with my fellow ministers. Hopefully this action will be understood and excused by our Senate.*
And on December 15, Aggie recognized also the facts, taking on him all responsibility for the illegality committed:
*Sorry I took so long to respond, but I was gone for a day. Now some setting the record straight. I had read the bill and did realize that the Mpp's were not approved. However, considering the declining numbers and interest in the demogame I made a decision to proceed with the necessary MPP, since it was obvious they were needed and would be approved. The only other alternative was to call the chat after less than turn played. This was unacceptable. So I decided to enter the MPP's that were mentioned. At the time I assumed everyone knew the nations mentioned on the MPP bill and these were not them. I apologize to all in the chat who I did not mention it too, ET and Togas particularly. I was wrong in this and should have mentioned it to all. Basically I did not feel the game should be stopped for something whose resolution was common sense and believed all in the chat were of the same mind. So I took the action I did and feel that this is much adou about nothing. For a matter of fact I feel there was no reason to stop the game as early as we did and would have preferred that we completed the 5 turns. However, I do realize many might oppose that decision and aknowledge that it is "technically" illegal what I did. However, though this action did no harm to our nation, I do offer to resign if this action is so horrible(I all fairness the stupidity of assuming we all knew the mpp weren't authorized is my great crime). If the people want me to resign I will, if not we will have a chat on the 18th.
Aggie*
The Constitution said in Article II.5 : The Senate must approve all Military Alliances, Trade Embargos, and Mutual Protection Pacts.
I accuse the following members of the term 6 government : the President Aggie, the Vice-President Togas and the Foreign Affairs Minister Arnelos to have respectively signed MPPs illegally, not to have prevented the signing of illegal MPP, and to have not succeeded in tempting to prevent the illegal signing.
I therefore ask The Court to determine if there are proper and legal grounds to hold a Removal From Office hearing, as per Article V.1.a of the Constitution.
*At the end of term 6 administration, the executive made a few moves within the game that were illegal. The illegality is not an issue, as all who have witnessed what did occur indicate they would have done the same (or similar)*
It also concluded, adopting the plaintiff argument
*The bill in question would remove the right to bring a case of impeachment for the MPPs signed with Russia, Greece, and Japan. This right is protected in the constitution and may not be taken away by a Senate bill.?*
I am therefore using my precious right to bring a case of impeachment for the MPPs signed with Russia, Greece and Japan. I seize this opportunity to express my gratitude to Civman2000 who made all this possible.
I limit this impeachment call to three members of the Cabinet :
- The President, Aggie, who signed the MPPs
- The Vice-President, Togas, who did not provide the President with the pertinent information enabling him not to fall into illegality
- The Foreign Affairs Minister, Arnelos, who identify the illegality but did not succeed in convincing the President.
Although The Court is perfectly aware of the circumstances, I recall hereunder the main texts describing the origin of the case.
The facts were discovered by the public in a report posted by Arnelos on December 14.
(link : http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=70883)
The same day, Togas recognized the facts:
* What Arnelos says is true, and I didn't even take the time to review it.
I was present at part of the turnchat and failed to notice that the bill that authorized the FAM to sign MPPs was limited to only a few nations. I think all of us failed to recognize this. It was suggested by those present at the chat, after the Romans began invading us, that we should sign MPPs with their allies as a means to keep from being ambushed by their alliance. We did this at the same time as we signed the MPPs with Greece (those damned Aztecs demanded 51gpt for a MPPs, so we declined), assuming this was previously authorized.
Frankly, I feel we did the proper strategic move by nullifying the Roman alliances, but what we did was beyond the authorization of the Senate. I ask that the Senate consider if they would have authorized this action to take place. If not, I believe all of us present would humbly submit to any sanctions the Senate or The Court felt were justified.
I was not present for the entire turnchat, and I left prior to the declaration of war by Rome, but as an active participant in the decision to sign those MPPs I will accept responsibility for the decision with my fellow ministers. Hopefully this action will be understood and excused by our Senate.*
And on December 15, Aggie recognized also the facts, taking on him all responsibility for the illegality committed:
*Sorry I took so long to respond, but I was gone for a day. Now some setting the record straight. I had read the bill and did realize that the Mpp's were not approved. However, considering the declining numbers and interest in the demogame I made a decision to proceed with the necessary MPP, since it was obvious they were needed and would be approved. The only other alternative was to call the chat after less than turn played. This was unacceptable. So I decided to enter the MPP's that were mentioned. At the time I assumed everyone knew the nations mentioned on the MPP bill and these were not them. I apologize to all in the chat who I did not mention it too, ET and Togas particularly. I was wrong in this and should have mentioned it to all. Basically I did not feel the game should be stopped for something whose resolution was common sense and believed all in the chat were of the same mind. So I took the action I did and feel that this is much adou about nothing. For a matter of fact I feel there was no reason to stop the game as early as we did and would have preferred that we completed the 5 turns. However, I do realize many might oppose that decision and aknowledge that it is "technically" illegal what I did. However, though this action did no harm to our nation, I do offer to resign if this action is so horrible(I all fairness the stupidity of assuming we all knew the mpp weren't authorized is my great crime). If the people want me to resign I will, if not we will have a chat on the 18th.
Aggie*
The Constitution said in Article II.5 : The Senate must approve all Military Alliances, Trade Embargos, and Mutual Protection Pacts.
I accuse the following members of the term 6 government : the President Aggie, the Vice-President Togas and the Foreign Affairs Minister Arnelos to have respectively signed MPPs illegally, not to have prevented the signing of illegal MPP, and to have not succeeded in tempting to prevent the illegal signing.
I therefore ask The Court to determine if there are proper and legal grounds to hold a Removal From Office hearing, as per Article V.1.a of the Constitution.
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Shouldn't Hannibal get a trade bonus for excellent pronuciation and punctuation then?
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