DIA: Party Leadership and Party Platform

[joncnunn]

We are now in the mid-Industrial Age, in the 13th Century, and possess a monstrous 47 cities. As we approach the optimal number (64 cities), corruption will become increasingly prohibitive (it is already quite excessive on our western frontier). If we have cities that are close to that number in relation to both the Palace and the FP location, corruption will be so atrocious ...

[joncnunn]

I think we should also add a section of Palace placement, calling for it to be relocated to Marcoss City.
This will:

1. Allow our Iron Works city to be fully productive.

2. Over all, corruption in our empire will be reduced by a move even balance between FP and P centric cities. Corruption would increase near the current P location and especally on Uber Island, but wouldn't be as corrupt as the western fridge currently is and a Police Station campaign in these areas could partly offset this.

[Arnelos]

Originally posted by joncnunn
I think we should also add a section of Palace placement, calling for it to be relocated to Marcoss City.
This will:

1. Allow our Iron Works city to be fully productive.

2. Over all, corruption in our empire will be reduced by a move even balance between FP and P centric cities. Corruption would increase near the current P location and especally on Uber Island, but wouldn't be as corrupt as the western fridge currently is and a Police Station campaign in these areas could partly offset this.

I'd like to only include things where there's a consensus of party members in favor. On the palace move issue, it's very clear that consensus does not exist...

As for the edit of the line about corruption and optimal cities number, I've changed my master copy and I'll edit the post above now.

[Nimitz]

Ok you guys have one day two submitt any last minuet nominations after that elections will be held by pm arnelos will be the won you send your votes to if he is not avalible it will be done by thread, the election will last three days as usual.

[Jonny]

Question for DIA members: What is our stance on drafting?

[Arnelos]

Originally posted by Jonny
Question for DIA members: What is our stance on drafting?

Currently, we have none. If you want to establish a thread for DIA members to debate it, that would be great. I'll include a link to that thread in the next newsletter (probably to be sent out tomorrow??).

[Nimitz]

I dislike it, it creates unit of infereor quality and creates unhappiness rushing is so much better.

[Arnelos]

If we want to establish a policy for freeing all of the slaves, we can do that as well.

NOTE that Spiffor, as the Domestic Minister and a leading member of our party, has the power to actually carry out such a policy. Since Meshelic is his Deputy for Public Works and HIS party has already established a staunch anti-slavery stance, he'd either already be strongly in favor or would be embarassed into being so (calling his bluff if he's not serious about it ). So any stance our party takes against slavery should be considered very seriously... because we have an obgligation to CARRY OUT THAT STANCE if we establish it.

That said, the membership of most of our party's membership in Thud' "Enlightenment Movement" specifically dedicated to the abolishment of slavery would suggest that we already know where the balance of the DIA party stands on that issue... ?

[joncnunn]

Both are my own personal opinions:

On war time drafting: we must be very careful NOT to draft from the same city 2 times within a 20 turn time period unless we have cities in danger of falling. In addition, drafting should only be done on size 12 cities without a Hospital unless we have cities in danger of falling.

On peace time drafting: I'm against any peaceful drafting with the current size of our armed forces.

[joncnunn]

I don't think we should address the slavery question in our party platform.

2 real life political parties have been broken up on that issue. (1 of them evenually got back together, but the other desolved with many of it's members joining a 3rd party that became a major party.)

In addition, at least 2 main line protestant denominations got broken on the issue of slavery. One of them got back together during the 1950s, but the other one remains split to this day.

[Arnelos]

Originally posted by joncnunn
I don't think we should address the slavery question in our party platform.

Doesn't matter. I'm sure people like Meshelic would be willing to form a pan/non-party organization (not having anything to do with party politics) which supports the abolition of slavery along with those in our party who support it (and the independents who would support it).

[Jonny]

I agree with johncnunn here, I don't think we should address the issue of slavery.

[jdjdjd]

I think we are safe to free all the slaves. The production our other workers has increased now and the need for tile development has dropped. It is a good time to free them and put them to work in the factories.

I think it is safe to free them in the platform. Obviously, the issue of slavery has no real moral implication in this game, so the DIA should continue to flourish.

[Meshelic]

Originally posted by Arnelos


Doesn't matter. I'm sure people like Meshelic would be willing to form a pan/non-party organization (not having anything to do with party politics) which supports the abolition of slavery along with those in our party who support it (and the independents who would support it).

Sure, a non-political organization to stamp out slavery sounds fine to me. Guess that answers both your question, eh Arnelos?

Chairman Meshelic
Labor Party

[Spiffor]

Wow Arnelos, I've just read the party platform. It's truly impressive ! You said exactly what I feel the DIA stands for, and you wrote woth your talent the very reasons I took part in the foundation of the DIA

I stated elsewhere I'm against slavery as soon as our dear country is completely improved : I used economic reasons (a slave worker is nearly useless, while a freed laborer within a city is as efficient as a domestic one), since I know other people will explain moral reasons much better than I could do.

I also am against drafting, as there are very valid gameplay reasons as well. I don't think I could express well moral concers here as well