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  • DIA: Party Leadership and Party Platform

    DIA members. The time has come for both the selection of new party leadership (the Party President's 2-month term being up) and the selection of a new party platform (the last one being a bit out-of-date).

    The Party President must be ELECTED by party members. All other leaders (Party Vice President, Public Relations Representative, and Government Liaison) are all appointed by the Party President.

    We can conduct such a vote through PMs to a designated election commissioner or we can conduct it by having party members post to a party leader election thread. Please discuss which you would prefer in this thread.

    So, the summarize, DIA members are welcome to discuss the following in this thread:

    1. Nominations for Party President
    2. Suggestions for other party leaders
    3. Party Platform
    4. Methods of voting on the Party President and the platform


    It would be nice if non-members would refrain from spamming this thread. Thank You

    Members: I'll be sending out a PM to let people know about this thread.
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  • #2
    Nimitz is hereby nominated to be Party President (should he accept)
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    • #3
      The following is the proposed Party Platform (as I promised by PM several days ago)...

      --------------------------

      Democratic Industrialist Platform for the Industrial Age

      Anti-Imperialism

      The Democratic Industrialist movement has a long history of opposition to imperialism. From its very inception through an alliance of several anti-imperialist parties, The Democratic Industrialists of Apolyton have long held that wars should only be fought when they can be demonstrated to be within the national interest. Beyond that, the Democratic Industrialist movement has long argued that domestic industrial development trumps reckless warmongering. In the founding speech of our party, Timeline outlined this belief as such:

      "We support giving ourselves breathing room when necessary, but acknowledge the superior concept of taking full advantage of what we have, here at home, rather than greedily pursuing things which can serve us no benefit. We believe in industrializing our cities, and investing in culture and science, these are the accomplishments that will shape us into a towering nation above all other civilizations of the world."

      Those words were spoken when our great civilization was still in the Ancient Age. We are now in the mid-Industrial Age, in the 13th Century, and possess a monstrous 47 cities. As we approach the optimal number (64 cities), corruption will become increasingly prohibitive (it is already quite excessive on our western frontier). If we have cities that are close to that number in relation to both the Palace and the Forbidden Palace location, corruption will be so atrocious that we will even be paying more money for the upkeep of our occupation forces in these cities than we will ever receive in taxes, science, luxuries, or other benefits (not to mention the cost of necessary improvements in these occupied cities). As such, imperialism, though many argue it has been a cornerstone of Apolytonian achievement over the ages, is quickly fading as a means for our civilization's continued vitality and growth. Where before there was at least a tension between imperialism and domestic development, imperialism is quickly losing what little lustre it once had... leaving domestic development as the only sensible option.

      Though we recognize the need to defeat major rivals to our hegemony such as Germany, there is no need for imperialistic expansion in our future. Once Germany has been felled, our hegemony will be secure and only fools will choose to challenge us. Where such fools exist, we will teach them the price for challenging us, but we will not have need to conquer them as the lesson - for additional conquests of primitive territory will only serve to weaken us. Indeed, our empire is already the world's largest and continued expansion will only serve to weaken the unity and cohesiveness of our mighty republic, a republic whose resources would be better spent toward industrial development. The calls by imperialists for the subjugation of the other regimes on Abananaba and beyond are not only amoral, but foolish as well.

      Democracy

      The Democratic Industrialist movement has long been a defender of democratic principles. The party was originally formed as a reaction to the anti-democratic domination of government and decision-making by leaders of the since destroyed Imperialist Party. Many, anti-imperialists as well as independents, joined together with the Democratic Industrialist movement to insist upon the following of the democratic principles upon which this nation was founded in ancient days. Though our nation has strayed from that path at times, the Democratic Industrialists of Apolyton have been instrumental in righting the path through the republican and democratic movements and the continued defense of our democracy. In doing so, we have helped our nation to cast off the chains which long held it down - those of the ancient barbarism of imperialism and authoritarianism. We now walk out into the light of truth.

      For, in the words of the poet Khalil Gibran,

      "Yesterday we bowed for kings and bent our necks before emperors. But today, we kneel only to truth, follow only beauty, and obey only love."

      It is the position of the Democratic Industrialists of Apolyton that our democratic form of government is sacrosanct. We will act forcefully to oppose any change in form of government. As written by Timeline in the founding statement of our party, we are "staunch advocates and defenders of Democracy, .. determined to prove faithful to the people." As long as our party remains a force in Apolytonia, we will fight to defend our democracy from those anti-democratic forces that would wish to destroy it.

      For the coming term, we promise simply, as the founders of our party did so long ago, to "forge a new presidential administration that respects the people, and values them for what we ALL are, human beings, equal, none better than another of his fellow man." For, in the words of one of the ancients, "instead of looking on discussion as a stumbling-block in the way of action, we think it an indispensable preliminary to any wise action at all."

      Industrialization

      The advent of the Industrial Age only augments the need to focus on domestic development over reckless warfare. Those nations which are wise enough to forgo excessive military conflict and focus diligently on industrializing their cities, sanitizing their water supplies, building ever-greater institutions of learning and commerce, and constructing enormous industrial wonders will become the masters of the modern world and the victors of the great competition of history.

      It is the position of the Democratic Industrialists of Apolyton that our nation should maximize the productive potential of every city in the Republic and should utilize the maximim amount of that productive capacity possible to provide clean water, modern medical care, modern education, reliable banking services, modern transportation, and modern communication service to as much of the people as possible. In doing so, our nation will be greatly strengthened in culture, science, the arts, and industry. This amazing strength will be what allows us to surpass all possible rivals and to become the undisputed leaders in science and industry for the whole world.

      We must abandon the ancient and barbaric aspects of our history and wholeheartedly embrace the modernity of the coming age. Our people will be freed from ailments and barbarisms which have long plagued all peoples of the world throughout the history of humankind. Our cities will be as beacons of progress and modernity to a world still awakening from its ancient and cruel past. If we follow this path succesfully, it may ultimately be the place of our civilization to - quite literally - reach for the stars.
      Last edited by Arnelos; December 17, 2002, 15:33.
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      • #4
        Oh, and to prevent confusion regarding the means by which we would vote.

        Here's the current list of members (as far as I know it). If you are either a member of the DIA or would like to be a member of the DIA and do not find yourself on this list, speak up!

        Senator Timeline (founder of the DIA, Term 2 Vice President)
        Justice Nimitz (ran for Foreign Affairs Minister in Terms 4 and 5)
        Supreme Military Commander Thud (Term 4 and 5 Minister of Science)
        Senator Trevman
        Domestic Minister-Elect Spiffor (Term 2 Minister of Economics)
        Senator Jonny (Term 5 Minister of Imperial Expansion, had run for that post in Terms 2, 3, and 4, Founder of the "Culture Party" which joined the DIA in Term 1)
        Senator civman2000
        Senator panag (current candidate for Term 7 Vice President)
        Senator caesarqbear
        Senator Sean
        Senator GePap (ran for Term 2 Minister of Public Works)
        Senator joncnunn (current Executive Advisor for Science)
        Senator Calc II
        President-Elect Arnelos (Term 6 Foreign Affairs Minister, Term 5 Vice President)
        Senator realpolitic
        Senator Odin
        Senator Jdjdjd (former Justice)
        Senator Aidun

        Possible Members/Past Members (?):

        Senator Donal Graeme (Term 3 Minister of Economics, ran for Vice President in special election from term 2)
        Senator Sn00py (Term 2 Foreign Affairs Minister)
        Senator Random Entity (ran for Term 2 Supreme Military Commander)
        Senator Guardian (Founder of the "Guaridan Party" that joined the DIA in Term 1)
        Senator Darkness' Edge

        Former Members:

        Senator Ninot (Term 2 President)
        Last edited by Arnelos; December 18, 2002, 21:56.
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        • #5
          *bump*

          panag, your PM box is full (everyone should have gotten the latest newsletter).
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          • #6
            I agree with the platform.

            Also, the newsletter was excellent.

            I also think now we need to concentrate our efforts on the victory condition and how to get there.

            I assume we are for the space race. It is time to develop our Gemini Project.
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            • #7
              Oh BTW, I'll nominate Arnelos to continue as PR guy, just based on his ability to get the word out, and stay on the pulse of the democracy.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Arnelos
                *bump*

                panag, your PM box is full (everyone should have gotten the latest newsletter).
                hi ,

                nope its not , ......

                have a nice day
                - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
                WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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                • #9
                  I accept the nomination, as your new president try to bring this party back to its former glory, and stem the tide of imperialism to take us back in the right direction.


                  P.S. If Arnelos wishes to still be the PR man I would gladly reappoint him.
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                  • #10
                    How do people prefer to vote on the president and platform? By thread or PM?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Arnelos
                      How do people prefer to vote on the president and platform? By thread or PM?
                      hi ,

                      since we are all so , by thread off course , ......

                      now , what type of functions are open in the DIA , ......

                      we need someone to lauder the
                      someone to run things , and a vp , for when the pres is to buzzy to bribe some people

                      some goons
                      some slaves to play in
                      so that we can have a

                      its about time we build some factories , has anyone noticed how those production levels keep low , ......

                      allas , have a nice day
                      - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                      - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
                      WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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                      • #12
                        *bump* (not that I really need to, since the party newsletter contained a LINK to this thread... but hey)

                        Anyone else wanna comment on any of this?
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                        Consul of Apolyton from the 1st Civ3 Inter-Site Democracy Game (ISDG)
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Arnelos
                          *bump* (not that I really need to, since the party newsletter contained a LINK to this thread... but hey)

                          Anyone else wanna comment on any of this?
                          hi ,

                          Arnelos the rumour in the jungle is that most of the DIA members are working so hard to build factories that they dont have the time to post

                          have a nice day
                          - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                          - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
                          WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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                          • #14
                            Platform is excelent.

                            Minor note on Optimal Number of Cities, a city is only hopelessly corrupt if it's rank order against both the Palace & Forbiden Palace is close to the OCN.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by joncnunn
                              Platform is excelent.

                              Minor note on Optimal Number of Cities, a city is only hopelessly corrupt if it's rank order against both the Palace & Forbiden Palace is close to the OCN.
                              Please offer an edit of the line.
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