New political party

[ManicStarSeed]

As a die-hard Indy, I eye this all with suspision. I'll always support the formation of a political party, but wonder if we will find ourselves switching to communisim soon as part of your agenda. As we all know communisim is an ideal gov for a warmonger platform... hmmm ....


Anyway,
If I get elected FAM, I would be happy to work with you, Meshelic if you become SMC. Together we can play the world (oops no pun intended, but hey its out) to the glory of Apolyton.

Mss

[Meshelic]

Originally posted by ManicStarSeed
As a die-hard Indy, I eye this all with suspision. I'll always support the formation of a political party, but wonder if we will find ourselves switching to communisim soon as part of your agenda. As we all know communisim is an ideal gov for a warmonger platform... hmmm ....


Anyway,
If I get elected FAM, I would be happy to work with you, Meshelic if you become SMC. Together we can play the world (oops no pun intended, but hey its out) to the glory of Apolyton.

Mss

Although it is globally understood that Labor Party's have been known to be a driving proponent of Communist states, I do NOT advocate a Communist government be put in place of the glorious Democracy of Apolyton.

Should I be elected as my country's Supreme Military Commander, I will most surely maintain our democratic way of life to the utmost of my ability. A totalitarian Communist government is in direct opposition to the ideals of the Apolyton Labor Party.

Fear the Labor Party not, for we are encouraging capitalism.

[Kuciwalker]

Ummmmm... what happened to the UFC? I didn't notice it in the list...

God, but I've been gone a loooong time, haven't I?

[Meshelic]

The UFC died out loooong ago. You've been gone for an incredibly long duration of this game, and so much has changed.

You have a lot of reading up to do, young skywalker.

[Arnelos]

Given your established record as a warmonger, would it not be more appropriate to call your somewhat populist labor party the "National Socialist Party"

I say let them form a Red-Brown Coalition, those of us who stand for sensible liberalism (using the 19th Century definition, not necessarily the 20th Century American one) shall fight you.

As for the DIA, it is much more alive than you would like to believe. The Hawks, especially with your departure, are essentially dead (given that you were the last life of that once mighty party).

[Aro]

Originally posted by Meshelic

Fear the Labor Party not, for we are encouraging capitalism.

Well... No more " kill the capitalist pigs", I suppose... sigh...

Where is Tassadar when we need him?

[Meshelic]

Originally posted by Arnelos
Given your established record as a warmonger, would it not be more appropriate to call your somewhat populist labor party the "National Socialist Party"

If I wanted to call my party the National Socialist Party, I would have done so, but as you can plainly see, I have not. And as for my record as a warmonger, a D.I.A. member in your Elections thread mentioned that their party was behind every war we have been in, so you cannot say that your own record is not full of warmonger mentality. Whether you were the one saying "let's kill em!" or the one saying "well, okay it'll be good for the industrialists..." does not matter.

I say let them form a Red-Brown Coalition, those of us who stand for sensible liberalism (using the 19th Century definition, not necessarily the 20th Century American one) shall fight you.

You cannot say my party is a red brown coalition when I have not yet even announced what my party stands for. Perhaps when the charter is posted you may make whatever opinion you like, and then we can discuss that.

As for the DIA, it is much more alive than you would like to believe. The Hawks, especially with your departure, are essentially dead (given that you were the last life of that once mighty party).

Indeed, that's why barely half the posts in your election thread were by independants and former Hawks?

I am no longer a Hawk. That I had a Hawk past has little to do with my formation of a new poltical party. But if you wish to fight us, then let it be so. Perhaps you should decide whether to be threatened or not when I post the charter for all to see?

[Meshelic]

Originally posted by Aro


Well... No more " kill the capitalist pigs", I suppose... sigh...

Where is Tassadar when we need him?

The latest war cry has been "kill the capitalist German pigs!"
That's not too shabby, is it?

[Aro]

Ok. Kill the capitalist German pigs!
Sounds fair to me...

[Arnelos]

Meshelic, are you just going to let this thing die or are you going to eventually post your promised "party platform"?

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Meshelic


The latest war cry has been "kill the capitalist German pigs!"

Is this the Democracy Forum or the PTW Game Forum. When did your team contact the New Demogypticans?

[Kuciwalker]

Parties are nasty and pernicious.

[Duddha]

Ok, if I get this right the only parties left are the DIA and the new LP. Is this correct? I'm trying to get a handle on what's going on.

edit: I would support this party if I didn't think that my support would polarize this party's standing on the political spectrum.

Looks like the DIA out lasted the Hawks.

[Meshelic]

Duddha your assessment is correct!

Arnelos patience my friend, you will know soon.

[Arnelos]

Duddha,

Basically the Hawks are dead as an organized political movement. That doesn't mean that hawks (with a lower-case 'h') aren't still a political presence (as they certainly are). Figures such as Unorthodox, donegeal, Meshelic, UberKruX, and others continue to occassionally make pro-war posts in the forums which one might claim have had some impact on policy.

That said, the Hawk Party is indeed, for all intents and purposes, dead. Meshelic was really its last leader as most of the others faded away due to RL and PTW.