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We've already moved out most of the units in the core, and we'll be able to leave most of the inner cities completely undefended after we've completed a vast network of railroads (troops can be immediately transported from one side of our empire to another to deal with point conflicts). However, we've still got to guard our borders and the conscripts, backed up by quick response teams of a few fast units (which we already have since the medieval age), could do just that. They can replace the musketmen (soon to be upgraded to riflemen) currently guarding our borders, so that these can garrison the cities that we conquer from Germany instead of cavalries.
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Normally, I'd agree that conscription is a losing strategy, but we need to deter others from allying with Germany. Our only other tools are:MPPs,alliances,and embargoes(which is a weak straegy-with many less side effects than the 1st 2). In this case, I'd be for conscription if only:
Originally posed by E_T
1) we draft from cities that are size 12
2) of the cities in #1, we draft from cities that will grow back to size 12 within the next turn.Comment
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Normally, I'd agree that conscription is a losing strategy, but we need to deter others from allying with Germany. Our only other tools are:MPPs,alliances,and embargoes(which is a weak straegy-with many less side effects than the 1st 2). In this case, I'd be for conscription if only:
[quote]Origanally posed by E_T
1) we draft from cities that are size 12
2) of the cities in #1, we draft from cities that will grow back to size 12 within the next turn.[quote]Comment
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As long as the 4 criteria specified by E_T are met, there is no reason not to draft. A stronger military is always good, freeing up vet defenders for other duties is also useful. And once we no-longer need these units, they can be converted into shields at a city of our choice.I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).Comment
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President Aggie showed up at the Chat last night and made the decision to draft from several cities. We drafted from Macross City, Gaia & Tessagrad. We could have drafted from Timeline, but I made the decision not to because of it's current build of University was at a delicate place in it's build and the loss of one pop for the single turn would have set it back one more turn.
I was going to wait and do it after we had some RR's in place, but some knat size civ desided to get uppity and attack us (and losing our Gems, too). We are in War now, so the Peace time restrictions for Drafting do not apply for now.
I still have to evaluate the cities for a possible draft plan during this war (and the full inpact on happiness from loss of Lux to the fact we were attacked), but I would say that we wait for now.
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Go there and look at expoilt number 1. 200 units wow!“...This means GCA won 7 battles against our units, had Horsemen retreat from 2 battles against NMs, and lost 0 battles.” --Jon Shafer 1st ISDGComment
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we should definitely draft. we have young men doing nothing but working in libraries for bananas sake! these men could be on the front lines against germany.
draft = more soldiers = more glory = stronger nation = dominationComment
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hi ,
we should only draft if there is a serious emergency , otherwise its not needed to make the mothers unhappy , .......
for twenty turns , .......
have a nice day
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No down with the draft!
The only way I'll agree to a Draft is if it is in only a small, small number of cities.
Only a small reserve army that fills up the empty defensive positions in our unprotected cities. Nothing more. Conscripts are worthless.
/RP
(I'm playing a character here, I don't really think of conscripts as worthless...they are only a step above worthless. IU've used them quite a bit on occasion, but for different reasons, oppose them here.)Former Supreme Military Commander of the Democratic Apolyton States, Term 8
Former Chairman of Apolyton Labor PartyComment
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hi ,Originally posted by Meshelic
RP
No down with the draft!
The only way I'll agree to a Draft is if it is in only a small, small number of cities.
Only a small reserve army that fills up the empty defensive positions in our unprotected cities. Nothing more. Conscripts are worthless.
/RP
(I'm playing a character here, I don't really think of conscripts as worthless...they are only a step above worthless. IU've used them quite a bit on occasion, but for different reasons, oppose them here.)
agreed , and if we where to plan our industry a bit we would never have to draft anyone at all !
we should only draft in case of national emergency and even then , ............
have a nice day- RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
- LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
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What's better than 2HP Conscripts defending a city?
Hmm....Veterans defending a city! Professional soldiers are much better than any of our workers taking up a rifle...Former Supreme Military Commander of the Democratic Apolyton States, Term 8
Former Chairman of Apolyton Labor PartyComment
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hi ,Originally posted by Meshelic
What's better than 2HP Conscripts defending a city?
Hmm....Veterans defending a city! Professional soldiers are much better than any of our workers taking up a rifle...
indeed , now its time we start very soon to put one artillery and infantry in each border city and one infantry in all the other cities we have , .....
have a nice day- RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
- LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?Comment
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Better that the men work in libraries to further our education than for us to lose a whole generation of men in a world war!Former Supreme Military Commander of the Democratic Apolyton States, Term 8
Former Chairman of Apolyton Labor PartyComment
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i agree that education is important, but having the largest, most powerful army in the world is much bigger a priority.Comment
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Spoken like a true Hawk.Originally posted by jdd2007
i agree that education is important, but having the largest, most powerful army in the world is much bigger a priority.
Rome's betrayal does call for limited conscription, but just that; limited. Our libraries are more important than a few units; armies can only be used for conquest, and become outdated. As useful as conquest is, knowledge is forever.
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