We can now draft, do we want to?

[E_T]

This is the Peace Time Policy of the Domestic Ministry conserning the Draft:

1) we draft from cities that are size 12
2) of the cities in #1, we draft from cities that will grow back to size 12 within the next turn.
3) we don't draft from the same city within 20 turns of the last draft.
4) we DO NOT draft within 10 turns of the expected time of going to war.

As of the 1070AB save, we currently have 4 cities that meet the above criteria: Macross City; Tessagrad; Timeline & Gaia. Apolyton will be in criteria in 3 turns, with Here It Is in 5 turns.

Do we want to have a stronger defence, incase we are attacked by one of the other Civs when we go after Otto. Personally, I say that we should invest in this possibility and have the draft.

What is the wishes of the Senate?

E_T

[Kloreep]

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For thousands of years, our nation has had a completely volunteer army. (Er, ignore those poprushed spears over there. They aren't fit for anything but the museum anyway.) To force our citizens into new wars goes against the glorious past of our armed forces, and to push unwilling recruits into the ranks would taint the honor of our military. Say no! Keep our forces skilled and proud!

Also, such unnecessary drafting would anger the populace and would surely get us all thrown out of office next election. That's the way this new Democracy thing works, my fellow senators.
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[nz_upy]

Yay for conscription(drafting whatever). But arent we planning on war withing 10 turns?

[Spiffor]

I agree with 2)
Drafted units are basically useless, except as a last chance when our cities are attacked. On the offense they're very likely to be crushed by better trained units, and risk to give them a new experience rank.
Such a luxury should only be afforded in cities which wouldn't suffer from the lack of workforce, because it would be replaced immediately .

[Shiber]

IMHO E_T's plan is excellent.

[E_T]

Originally posted by nz_upy
Yay for conscription(drafting whatever). But arent we planning on war withing 10 turns?

About 20 turns from now will be the earliest, so we can draft from a few cities now.

Even though we might not need them, I would rather have a few extra defences in than go through the possibility of losing a city to a multi Civ attack.

This would also have the added benifit of allowing other things besides Def. Mil units, i.e. Cav, Cannon & EXPLORERS. One of the reasons for the delay in our War against Otto, it to make sure that we can respond to him bringing in more Civs and then take the fight back to them. We don't know what will happen during the war and a conscript or 3 might help.

In the next 10 turns that I'll Allow Peace Time Drafting, there won't be that many cities that will be effected.

AND if done correctly, you can take a conscript all of the way up to elite. Although, you just might lose a couple of them on the way.

E_T
E_T

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[Panag]

hi ,

, we should only draft when its needed , .....

have a nice day

[Zero]

Spiffor,
Draft allows you to move out your veteran unit in the city out to the front. our conscript can commit to better than nothing defense. It also serves to maintain Militray policing if you can have one.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Calc II
Spiffor,
Draft allows you to move out your veteran unit in the city out to the front. our conscript can commit to better than nothing defense. It also serves to maintain Militray policing if you can have one.

hi ,

if we really have to draft then we should see to it that those units get elite status asap , .....;

but we dont need to draft , we should only draft in case of a federal emergency , .....

have a nice day

[canyontree]

Drafting is not a winning strategy. The only practical uses are:

Desparation last ditch defense.
(Usually too late to help but tends to stave off the inevitable. The final condition is the AI gtets a smaller useless city in desparate need of entertainers.)

Instant Police.
(Only useful in Commie, Monarchy, Despotism Govts)

Both are indications that you are loosing. Both are indications that the player has renounced the way of the warrior.

[E_T]

Originally posted by canyontree
Drafting is not a winning strategy. The only practical uses are:

Desparation last ditch defense.
(Usually too late to help but tends to stave off the inevitable. The final condition is the AI gtets a smaller useless city in desparate need of entertainers.)

Instant Police.
(Only useful in Commie, Monarchy, Despotism Govts)

Both are indications that you are loosing. Both are indications that the player has renounced the way of the warrior.

I beg to differ with you. I ran a sucsessful Offensive War against 2 civs on 2 continents while maintaining a reserve in case the Aztecs had gotten frisky. THis was while in Democracy and the two wars lasted for over 30 turns. I never once had to use the Lux slider, but it did come close.

THe draft was an important part of my stategy. I used them to defend my core cities. I used them to defend worker stacks that were laying down RR in the war zones. I used them to defend cities that were past resisting and no longer in danger of flipping back. This freed up my Vet Units for more Important things.

THis gave me the build flexability to work on (and complete ALL of the Industrial Wonders). To increase my research base to where the AI was buying techs from me. To also increase my monitary base so that I could rush buy a lot (towards the end). It allowed me to keep producing Offensive & Defensive Mil Units while working on all of these things at once.

The war would have been much longer And/Or would have cost me my top position IF I had NOT used the draft. We can always disband them at some later date, for free shields (we didn't us any to produce them).

E_T

[joncnunn]

1. Does anybody have an army either larger or the same size as ours?

2. Does the Supereme Military Commender want some conscripts?

[Zero]

Everyone missed the point of my post. Drafting is good for moving those veteran infantry/riflemen out from inner empire where they are commiting Mandatory 1-2 man defense and MP duty. Conscripting can free these veterans to go off in the front while conscript can replace the veteran role of MP and inner empire homeland security.

I use conscripting for this reason. I don't really use conscripts much in the war front, though if things look that grim, I guess you have no choice.

[joncnunn]

We are a Democracy, so we have no need for military police.

We could easily remove all military units from interior cities. This would actually help the war effort during Germany as the AI starts a wild goose chase trying to capture the undefended cities.