Area 25: Useless Industrial Innovations

[Thud]

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Soon, I will be compiling a Tech Guide for the not-too-distant Industrial Age. While y'all are waiting I pose this question:

Should we attempt to research and whore Medicine and Sanitation (+Radio), or Corporation and Steel\Refining? Which course of action (assuming we still won't be able to directly compete for the best techs on our own) would you recommend?

[Apocalypse]

Shouldn't you be naming these plans?

I already have a name in mind for Corporation and Steel\Refining if you want it.

[E_T]

Originally posted by Apocalypse
Shouldn't you be naming these plans?

I already have a name in mind for Corporation and Steel\Refining if you want it.

I'm more worried about getting to Electronics & Hover Dam first.

E_T

[mrmitchell]

Yeah, the Hoover Dam rocks. In most of my games I just get steam power, industrialization, then speed straight ahead for electronics. (And then with the extra production power of the hoover I can produce tanks like crazy, wiping out my enemies.)

[Randolph]

This is my general plan, which I think works quite well. It’s never failed to get me HD and plenty of relatively useless tech to sell/trade after the construction of HD. (its just a sugestion)

steam -> industry (for rails and factories)
Then -> scientific method (I know there are several between)
Build TOE
During construction: Sanitation, replaceable parts, or the corporation (more than one if possible, or move to refining after TC)
Get atomic theory -> electronics with TOE
Build Hover Dam

[Thud]

Does the AI go for electronics as a priority? I'm not sure, but most likely not, and this is a good suggestion. The reason I didn't name anything yet is because I planned on having suggestions that might make these plans obselete. This seems to be the case, actually.

[joncnunn]

In my own games, my tech tree plan for the Industrial ages is:

1. Railroad

2. Medicine, Sanitation.

3. Replaceable Parts

4. Beeline to Electornics.

I trade for the other early industrial techs the AIs have.

But I'm always ahead of the AI by then in techs.

If we're running behind techs (I hope not), we can buy Nationalism and then reserach Communism and/or Epsoidage. (Least desirable path for the AI)

[ManicStarSeed]

I would like to see this order...

Steam Power
Medicine
Electricity
Scientific Method (ToE Get industrialization and corporation with it)
Replacable Parts (Infantry)
Atomic Theroy
Electronics (Hover Dam)

Let us get sanitation through trade/extortion.... whatever. We do not want to build hospitals until we get Ecology as population pollution is a real problem.

Unless we want battlefield medicine, then we need 5 hospitals. Still, I would rather wait untill we have some mass transit systems built.

Mss

[Apocalypse]

See why some set plans are needed? People are just spurting out random ideas. Nothing very constructive going on at the moment.

[GodKing]

randolph, that is how I usually do it as well. I think we have a chance at it if we can start our research up soon.

GK

[ManicStarSeed]

Originally posted by Apocalypse
See why some set plans are needed? People are just spurting out random ideas. Nothing very constructive going on at the moment.

Isn't this the first step in planning.... Random ideas=brainstorming, Thud can use this to formulate a plan. We will know that the plan was formulated AFTER (and based upon)some discussion.


Give us ideas not your criticism.

Mss

[ManicStarSeed]

I really think that the Hover Dam, ToE and replacable parts are our priorities.

Then we need to get mobilized transport.

Mss

[joncnunn]

I completely disagree with delaying Sanitation.
Cities can't grow past size 12 without Hospitals.
Hospitals should be the number 1 priority for all cities at size 12 that can have a food surplus.

Each additional worked tile (with road) is worth a minimum of 2 commerce under Republic/Democracy.

How in the world can we keep up with the AI in techs without the increased income & research from large metropolis as soon as possible?

Our current worker pool can handle any polution with ease as soon as a minimal rail network is set up.

I usally sell Medicine for Industrization.

I don't bother even buying Corporation until I'm very close to completing ToE or finishing up Electrecy. (Whichever is first.)

I'll definately want to know expected reserach times so I can judge likelyhood of being first to research given techs.

First three techs if ahead:
Research Steam Power (RAIL!)
Reserach Medicine if AI doesn't have it when we discover rail, otherwise sell Steam Power for Medicine. Then check to see if other AIs willing to pay us enough GPT for it.
Research Sanitation (Hospitals!)

Check to see if AI can afford to buy decent price for Sanitation and/or tech.

First two techs if about equal:
Research Medicine
(Sell Medicine for Steam Power)
Reserach Sanitation

Techwhore Sanitation.

(The AI beats us out to Steam Power if we are about equal research at that point because it's the most popular AI first tech to research.)

First tech if behind:

Communism if we can afford buying Nationlism the same turn we buy the last required Middle Age tech otherwise
Free Artistry.

Techwhore Free Aristry and/or Communism for more useful techs.

Originally posted by ManicStarSeed
I would like to see this order...

Steam Power
Medicine
Electricity
Scientific Method (ToE Get industrialization and corporation with it)
Replacable Parts (Infantry)
Atomic Theroy
Electronics (Hover Dam)

Let us get sanitation through trade/extortion.... whatever. We do not want to build hospitals until we get Ecology as population pollution is a real problem.

Unless we want battlefield medicine, then we need 5 hospitals. Still, I would rather wait untill we have some mass transit systems built.

Mss

[joncnunn]

Just about every tech in the industrial age is a prereq for Mobilized Transport.

Originally posted by ManicStarSeed

Then we need to get mobilized transport.

Mss

[Thud]

I wanted random ideas. When we get to the industrial age I am going to be making set plans for debate upon. I just wanted input for these set plans before designing them.