Pre-poll: (law) City Naming

[ThePlagueRat]

Hi, READ before voting!
We need to democratically sort out this amendment.
This is unoffical but would impact the final proposition...
(and for that we need 2/3 majority)

Through the discussions, our people has come up with different
suggestions. If other suggestions are to be added to the final poll, just post them here, and include the option
Law of bananas: §x, others.
Otherwise, choose from beneath: ( one, two or many)


§1a. " What must be done for naming cities, is the duty that falls mainly on the Minister of Imperial Expansion, hereafter referred to as MoIE, Who chooses the city sites and goes about building them. "

§1b. "Cause this is to be the logical course, the new duty for the MoIE would be to take all the ideas for city names, arrange them into a poll which the citizens can vote for, and then put that poll into effect where neccessary. "

§2a. "Under no circumstance, are any citizens in any position,
allowed to use a their (nick)name on a cityname. "

§2b. "As for our founding fathers, here defined as the 1st. Apolytonian governmental term, should their (nick)names be exclued from the rule in §2a. And so forth be distributed by the MoIE in a proper manner as a memorial to our ancestors."

§3a "Each cabinet member can choose one cityname whereas
that refers to some theme. This theme will be decided by an offical poll, and executed by the government. "

§3b "Renaming of current cities are possible by those cabinet members, when those cities are not named
through a system within this law. "

§4 "Each cabinet member can choose one cityname whereas
that name can refer to anything that he wishes to.
The cabinet member can therefore include his own nickname."




(edit)
Discussion about this here: (and other places too)

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=63878

[Arnelos]

You should also poll on whether people want it to be the MoIE or the CP, since GK has been handling this more than GF during the past term.

[ThePlagueRat]

Hmm, if a b-clause gets more popular than an a-clause, and the b-clause refers to the a-clause, then I have to reformulate it a bit, just to fit the rest.

And the least popular will have to go down the drain,
if they create contradictions with the more popular ones.
Otherwise, I think it will work out...

[ThePlagueRat]

Originally posted by Arnelos
You should also poll on whether people want it to be the MoIE or the CP, since GK has been handling this more than GF during the past term.

Yes, if §1 gets through.
That would be a new responsibility outside the constitution.
This could only be an amendment, so that duty could theoretically be put on anyone in the government...
We can reformulate to "the government" perhaps?
If §1 gets popular, that is.

[jdd2007]

a little complicated, eh?

i have no problem with nicknames for cities, but we should be able to rename a city whenever we want to

[ThePlagueRat]

Here is another suggestion...
If enough people wanna hook of the banana/others option,
maybe we can us this too?

§5 "In handling the naming and renaming of cities,
the City Council shall have the highest authority.
Only through an official "City Council: _ " - votation can anything be changed. The government is responsible for executing this council's decisions. "

What about that?

[Mr. Orange]

Squiggy 1 (How DO you do that character?): I do like the MoIE having this responsibility because it adds more to the position.

Squiggy 4: I don't mind that a Minister gets to name a city anything they want as a reflection of their time in office, but it should be a one time deal. If they are elected againn and have a city, they cannot exert the option.

Squiggy 5: sounds good.

My 2 Lytons...

Squiggy (6): There should be a place holder for the cities until the process for choosing a city name has been completed. A la new elemental in the periodic table. That way, we know what is still available to create a name for.

[Arnelos]

Originally posted by Mr. Orange
Squiggy (6): There should be a place holder for the cities until the process for choosing a city name has been completed. A la new elemental in the periodic table. That way, we know what is still available to create a name for.

Just use the AI-assigned name...

[Mr. Orange]

Sure. But where is the fun in that? Have the MoIE work for their Lytons.

[Duddha]

§2a. "Under no circumstance, are any citizens in any position,
allowed to use a their (nick)name on a cityname. "

I oppose this clause with all my might! This is the only reward most ministers get for all of their tiresome work.

[ThePlagueRat]

Well, duddha...
It seems that your opinion is the one with the most public support. Take a look at the Uber Island and look at the citynames there. If the Apolytonian people really think that's nice, I would not be proud of my own people.

I think that's a shame, since now we can never get rid
of stupid citynames, like abbreviations and so on.
Great. One final clause I can come up with to help the situation:

§4b "Under no circumstance, must a city be named with an abbreviation"

Ok, I did what I could...

[GodKing]

I have no problem switching this to MoIE, as

a) it looks like the MoIE will fall under CP with the new code of laws.

b) CP has lots to do, so if someone else is willing and able to do the job fairly.....

I agree with duddha, ministers should have the option.

[Ninot]

i abhore all of these laws.

i think there should be no restrictions on the naming of cities.

[E_T]

Originally posted by GodKing
I have no problem switching this to MoIE, as

a) it looks like the MoIE will fall under CP with the new code of laws.

b) CP has lots to do, so if someone else is willing and able to do the job fairly.....

I agree with duddha, ministers should have the option.

I also agree, MoIE should be incharge of this.

E_T

[adaMada]

I gotta stand by option 4... I don't care if the citynames are lousy, if someone who took a month of their time to help the game liked it enough to make it part of their legacy, then so be it. The past names (that were decided by ministers/judges/etc) should stand, and I'd like to see us do it this way throughout the future.

As for who actually renames the cities (MoIE or CP) I don't really care -- it goes well with either, but I guess the MoIE has a bit less work so perhaps it should go there. Either way, it'll be a lot less relevent when the new Constitution comes out, as I think it's well known that the MoIE will probably not be an elected Minister.

-- adaMada