Upgrade to 1.29

[BigFurryMonster]

It strikes me that everyone is asking questions like "how many users will not be able to play the game under 1.29" but nobody ever gives an answer...

[GodKing]

Epi

They can load the game now, and are involved in the game.

They do not have an option yet for 1.29, nor is Firaxis going to release a 1.29 patch for them as Firaxis plans on using PtW to do it for them.

[UnOrthOdOx]

OK, I voted no.

I did so because it will alienate players, however few, from the game. 1.21 is universal, everyone can use it. 1.29 will NOT load on a 1.21 version.

I am against anything that has the potential of deminishing our population. We live off the nimber of active members online. If changing to 1.29 removes even ONE of those members, if it discourages someone from joining, it will not be worth it.

STAY 1.21! We are a global community, let our game be able to be shared globally.

[Hagbart]

If the mac users cant use 1.29 we should stay at 1.21 at least till this game is finished..

[adaMada]

Voted don't for the sake of the Mac/Foreign Users -- if they can't upgrade, then it isn't worth it.

Will also polish my instructions for the dual install and try to find Shiber's method of quickly changing between patches sometime soon.

-- adaMada

[Aro]

The reasons to no upgrade are enough for me. Please, change my vote to “no, don't”.

[E_T]

This should be along the line of an admendment. But if we get 2/3rds vote, will we have to accept it as one, even though it's not worded as one? I voted Yes, because of the healing of Armies for starters. I like the way that the AI is a bit better tactically, more challenging.

The 1.29f patch is one of the reasons that I've started to play Civ again.

E_T

[Panag]

hi ,

so , we should not upgrade , because a small group says so , .......



WHAIT JUST A MINUTE


1 we are a democrazy
2 why on earth should we get behind and face some bugs
3 there is not a single good justified reason from anyone as to why the upgrade would be "bad" , .......
4 because its about time
5 no lame excuse as "i cant get it" , if you are on this site , you can have it !
6 because the banana says so

have a nice day

[adaMada]

Panag,

We shouldn't upgrade for one reason and only one reason.

We are a democracy.

Democracy isn't about the majority having a say. It's about everyone having a say. It'd be unfair to 'remove' certian players from playing, assuming that there are good reasons they haven't upgraded (Which I'm willing to trust GodKing on). To upgrade if it can be shown that this would prevent some players from playing would be Unconstitutional, and I'd be fully in support of going to the court to stop such an upgrade, assuming that the court can also find proof that it'll stop people from playing.

I will be posting more complete instructions for switching between versions/dual installing shortly. I wish we could play in 1.29f too -- for a month, I didn't play civ 3 at all because of the Demogame, which is a shame. Having said that, it it's not fair to stop anyone from playing.

Once 1.29f is out for everyone (if it ever is, which sounds like no) then my vote will be a yes. Once we start the next game, my vote will be a yes. Once we can do one of these polls and have no good reasons for not upgrading, then yes. Until then, no. Sorry .

-- adaMada

[Panag]

Originally posted by adaMada
Panag,

We shouldn't upgrade for one reason and only one reason.

We are a democracy.

Democracy isn't about the majority having a say. It's about everyone having a say. It'd be unfair to 'remove' certian players from playing, assuming that there are good reasons they haven't upgraded (Which I'm willing to trust GodKing on). To upgrade if it can be shown that this would prevent some players from playing would be Unconstitutional, and I'd be fully in support of going to the court to stop such an upgrade, assuming that the court can also find proof that it'll stop people from playing.

I will be posting more complete instructions for switching between versions/dual installing shortly. I wish we could play in 1.29f too -- for a month, I didn't play civ 3 at all because of the Demogame, which is a shame. Having said that, it it's not fair to stop anyone from playing.

Once 1.29f is out for everyone (if it ever is, which sounds like no) then my vote will be a yes. Once we start the next game, my vote will be a yes. Once we can do one of these polls and have no good reasons for not upgrading, then yes. Until then, no. Sorry .

-- adaMada

hi ,

well according to the first lines the , we should stop to play then , .......

have a nice day

[Aggie]

Chage my vote to no, too. We either ALL have to upgrade or NONE and I for one do not want to deny people the enjoyment of the game. Imagine if you were on of the few who couldn't, It would be horrible to be unable to participate in a game you enjoy.
Aggie

[adaMada]

Originally posted by panag


hi ,

well according to the first lines the , we should stop to play then , .......

have a nice day

Panag,

Sorry, I'm a tad confused. Which lines are do you mean? When you say "stop to play", do you mean that we should shut down the game overall? Sorry, as soon as I understand what you mean I'll happily respond, but I'm a bit confused right now .

-- adaMada

[Trevman]

We decided at the start of the game which rules we would play by including playing by 1.21. I don't believe we should change any of them including the version. However, if a significant number will be alienated from the game with the old version, then we should probably upgrade.

[adaMada]

Oh yea, almost forgot to ask, OPD, is this an official thread?

If it is, I'll add it to the directory's official thread archive when it comes online. If not, then I won't .

-- adaMada

[wervdon]

I voted to go ahead and upgrade, but really it only matters what those who are in office/might be in office want to do. The rest of us don't have to load the save (and in fact it crashes my civ3 to load it anyways).

A better and more informative poll might be to divide people who might be willing to run for office someday up according to who can upgrade to 1.29 and who can't upgrade to 1.29

Something like this:
[ ] I do not see myself running for office in the foreseeable future
[ ] I might run for office and I want to upgrade to 1.29f
[ ] I might run for office and I do not want to upgrade to 1.29f
[ ] Bananna