Palace location commitee

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Arnelos
Thus, wouldn't it make sense to have the palace located near the middle of the traditional middle of our empire (perhaps even leaving it in Apolyton because of Uber Island) and then placing the Forbidden Palace in Pasargadae once we've completely annexed the Persians and build up that city?

I could support this, although we may later decide to move the palace north some.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Personally, I think it may be better to build the FP north some, then move the Palace to Former Persia and play Culture war with England and Germany.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
Personally, I think it may be better to build the FP north some, then move the Palace to Former Persia and play Culture war with England and Germany.

I agree completely, but we're the only two people that believe this.

[Aro]

No, I'm supporting this proposal too. Moreover, we need to plan this carefully; in the best scenario both (FB and Palace) should be done at the same time (well, more or less), what means no lack of productivity. I’ll post a map with the main proposals as soon as I can, including the "palace jump" idea(I’m working on the big WM, it’s the basis for the other maps, including this one).
In fact, in this thread we need to discuss the palace junp too, it's a great idea ( I use this in my games).

[Ninot]

i also agree to the fact that we should either have the palace of FP north of where the Palace currently is, and place the other in Persia.

But we must decide exactly where in the "north" it will go.

I am still in the opinion that a palace or FP in Delmonte will be better for our future goals. The land to it's north may be desert and plains... but it isn't our desert and plains yet, so that might be what we should be working to change.

Also, as it is very center-like for our end of the continent, i just think it has the best long term location.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Looking at the map closer, I would say Gaia for the FP, though arguments could be made for Del Monte as well. With Gaia, though, the FP is closer to Seeberg, Uber, Geofort, and Napoleton which are going to have some majore production capapbilities once that jungle is cleared.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
Looking at the map closer, I would say Gaia for the FP, though arguments could be made for Del Monte as well. With Gaia, though, the FP is closer to Seeberg, Uber, Geofort, and Napoleton which are going to have some majore production capapbilities once that jungle is cleared.

Once again, I completely agree with UnOrthO, Gaia is IMO the best location, although the Palace would provide a larger radius of effect than the FP and would thus better assist the French cities.

Anyplace north of Gaia is ineffecient and wasteful. We are Industrius, meaning our larger cities get bonus shields and sacrificing size 25 cities for size 7 cities is poor strategy.

[=OttomusCeasar=]

I believe the Palace should be in Gaia and the FP should be in Pasagarde.

Your suggestions are using the one with the smallest radius for the largest area and the largest radius for the smallest area.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Re: FP verses Palace.

I didn't know they had different radii, frankly. I learn something on this board every day.

The one drawback would be that the FP would take much longer to build in Passagrad, barring another GL (which I would MUCH rather see build the FP than an Army). Actually, either way we would be pretty much waiting for a GL to get both of these up and running any time soon.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Assuming we are going to take our current territory plus the Persian and American homelands as our base empire, i would advocate the Palace in Gaia or Timeline and the Forbidden Palace in Pasagardae.

That would cover the maximum amount of quality cities and be quite capable of sustaining our Empire to the end of the game. With the exception of the Persian Homeland, America, and Hamburg I don't see the need for any more territory outside of establishing military bases for the holding of specific resources.

[UnOrthOdOx]

I agree. I may have a different interpretation of the 'military bases' but, I agree with the assessment of the locations.

I really don't see us getting away without owning Upper Abananaba. Taking all of the north, eventually, will provide a small border to defend against Rome. But that is an entirely different topic.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
I may have a different interpretation of the 'military bases' but, I agree with the assessment of the locations.

Why do I get the feeling the entire continent of Asia would qualify as a "military base" in UnOrthO's world............

[Aro]

There's an updated Empire Map (310 AD) in my site, http://www.arociv.com/Maps.html .
Could be useful in our discussion.
Here's a thumbnail:

[=OttomusCeasar=]

After looking at the thumbnail I say Palace in Timeline and FP in Pasgardae.

Bonus effect would be to put more cultural pressure on Rheims and Chartres.

[DAVOUT]

Cannot this problem be solved by calculation, or at least by geometrical analysis ?