Do we continue war with Persia

[E_T]

Originally posted by Aurelius Azimut
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However, we must have no prejudice against ceasing the operation if ever the homeland is considered to be in danger. That said, I believe that if we start to peel away a layer we should finish it unless it would prove disasterous to do so.
Also, before entirely destroying the backstabbing Persian turncoats, we should leave them around long enough to enter trade negotiations in order to outfit ourselves with all their interesting newfangled technologies (which should be easy enough as long as the war goes smoothly, because at that point we'd have them by the "short hairs").
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Hasn't anyone noticed that thay have three (that's 3) cities far from their main area. Two are north of America and the other is between England & THe Aztecs. A protracted war to "take them out" will be just that, protracted (i.e. expensive).

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[GhengisFarb™]

1) We NEVER have to risk losing cargo as we have one on the island and one at home, simply move midway transfer units and each one returns to its home coastals. I belive the losing one may have to risk it in the sea but as that one will be empty and its the one form the homeland it would be the easiest to replace.

2) I only advocate taking the Persian Homeland, their various far flung colonies are not of strategic importance to us IMHO.

[Aggie]

Those far flug cites even work in our adavantage, we can take over everything else and STILL get the techs, lets face it we might get two of those cities too, though for the record I've not made a final decison on the offensive into the persian heartland. Right now i am considering the specific of the tyre/gordium attack. To atack tyre with whole swordarmy or split and send 5 toward grodium. I'm leaning toward taking tyre and then sending the whole happy force east to visit gordium(and points east/north?).
Aggie

[Robber Baron]

Originally posted by Aggie
Right now i am considering the specific of the tyre/gordium attack. To atack tyre with whole swordarmy or split and send 5 toward grodium. I'm leaning toward taking tyre and then sending the whole happy force east to visit gordium(and points east/north?).
Aggie

I like Aggie's plan.
The best way to approach Tyre, of course, would be along the mountain route: once the archer stack E of Geofront has been taken out (either battering against our entrenched pike, or by strikes from the city), then move onto the mountain, then hop over to the mountain SE, to lay seige to Tyre from the heights. That approach maximizes defense against counterattack.

We should wage this war by throwing our elite units into battle, to try to generate leaders. Attack the archers on the mountain with the 2 elite units in Geof. Move more elite sword into Geof (from the stack E of Ubergorsk, take out any surviving archers, then grind towards Tyre.
Then perhaps bypass Sidon and head directly for Gordium. With luck, Sidon might grow, and we could take it rather than razing it.

By the way, I'd move that worker stack S of BHQ to the region as soon as their done clearing (1 turn) and roading (another turn). We should hook up the Persian acquisitions quickly, to accelerate reinforcement and clear more jungle around Ubergorsk. We will be counting on creating culture here, to help strengthen our grip on the territory we acquire from Persia.

[Togas]

I see that this poll has closed and that most of Apolytonia is in favor of "continuing" the war with Persia.

Before I left, I created a similar poll with mixed results. I decided that we should at least take two cities and tech before peace would be negotiated.

I have one more turnthread to do on Tuesday, and may remain FAM after this election, but the biggest decision I have to make in my term may well be for the next turnchat.

Do we continue the war with Persia even after Tyre + Sidon + (surrender terms with) Tech?

The only logical reason to continue the war is if we push for a full conquest of the Persian homeland. If we want a short war only, now is the time to end it.

My personal feelings on this war should be well known. What I need to know is if the nation of Apolytonia has changed it's collective feelings on a war of conquest with Persia.

--Togas

[Duddha]

make a new poll

[GhengisFarb™]

MARCH TO THE SEA!

[Ninot]

end the madness!

[kring]

End it as we may be facing a Roman war soon enough. I am not so sure the Romans are after the Greeks yet.

[nz_upy]

As I see it this war will be pointless (well not entirely) if we don't push all the way to the pyramids.

[Panag]

hi ,

leave them with whatever we dont need , .......

we should try to get all we can , ......

no not the piramids , he can have them , ......

have a nice day

[BigFurryMonster]

If we go threaten/take the Pyramids, Xerxes will be much more willing to give us many things for Peace.

[=OttomusCeasar=]

We should take all of the Persian homeland.

Why?

Because its there, silly.

[Robber Baron]

Onward! I think we might be facing an ideal opportunity to mortally wound a crippled opponent, secure an invaluable asset (the Pyramids) ... and do so without riling up other civs.
Gifting Cerbourg (per ada's suggestion) might well keep Alex at bay. In any event,ff the Romans do declare war (or the Germans), then we simply make peace with the Persians. We should be able to get favorable terms whenever we want.
Meanwhile, the prospect of generating another leader, possibly setting up a Forbidden Palace on Persian territory, gives us an opportunity to become twice as powerful as any other civ on Abananaba.
And it seems to me we should be able to prosecute this war while at the same time building our central core. We can build libraries and (soon) cathedrals in the north-central region, and colonize Uber Island, AND wage war. At least it seems to m we shouldn't need to have every city on military production.
Persia's on the ropes. Let's move in now. If we don't, another civ might well take advantage of her weakened state, and take the Pyramids for themselves.

[GhengisFarb™]

Romans, smomans. We should take the Pyramids, Incense and Spice.

That'll give us FOUR luxuries within our territory and extras of each PLUS the Ivory.

Another GL to build the Sistine Chapel and our cities will be set!