An alliance with England.

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by wervdon
The only alliance id be interested in is greece vs. germany. We don't need (and dont want) help with france. We dont need help against persia unless they get their iron. A war with germany and greece could be good though, it further stretches greece out and thus keeps them from building culture more, and will distract germany. Also, it keeps greece from being bribed to attack us too, and really they are the only ones that worry me.

An alliance with england against persia is also a bad idea, I think its likely that elizabeth would win that due to her iron, and that would leave us a stronger enemy later.

I agree with your assessment, but I don't know that I'd be comfortable with Greek forces crossing through our area of influence on their way to Germania.

Also, I see Greece as the next most probable target as they have several cities in our beloved (why? I don't know it's hot, sweaty, and the animals really annoy me) jungle. I envision us eventually trying to consolidate the Grand Basin and that will bring us into conflict with the Greeks.

They are also our primary competition for the Valley of Smelly Things that America posesses.

[Robber Baron]

I too feel our situation is not serious enogh to warrant an entangling alliance with other civs. We don't want the Americans drawn into war, and I would expect only minimal help from the English. We should be able to finish off the French, and stave off the Persians, relatively easily. And very possible, weather the Germans, too.

Plus, we don't have an urgent need for more gold right now, as far as I can see. What is much more precious to us, at this stage, is the room to manuever freely in geopolitical and military terms.

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by Robber Baron
Plus, we don't have an urgent need for more gold right now, as far as I can see. What is much more precious to us, at this stage, is the room to manuever freely in geopolitical and military terms.

Fully agree, if we entagle into alliances we could eaisly escalate this into something bigger. We have the ability to end this quick and spend some time without being at war to improve our infrastruture. (Pacifist, nah, I just want to become more efficient at troop building and have a more effecient road system to transport our soldiers)

Personally, I'd want to avoid war until:

1)We get a more productive government like Monarchy or Republic.

2)Built up some cities with high production tiles like Ubergorsk and BHQ (think we should mine the mountain) so we can spit out our most advanced military units faster.

3)Possibly do something to improve our science research or happiness like markeplace/library.

Then we should go for Persia (carve our names on the Pyramids) or Greece (just cause they're there).

Personally, I like Persia. It would give us the Pyramids, secure our back, give us Spice and Incense, and we could place the Forbidden Palace down there.

[MrWhereItsAt]

/me is dying to see the save so he can make his own judgements.....

[Reddawg]

Warmongers!!!

we just cannot afford to open up more hostilities, at all. no alliances, i say.

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by GePap
Germany is a maor threat since they do have rion, and have some huge cities that give them immense building capacities. We need to move troops to these areas and then prepare our counter attac, and at least take Hamburg.

I agree I don't think we can win against Germany, that's why I call for a rapid assault and taking of Hamburg. Make it seem like we were prepared for the war and they'll agree to peace since they weren't.

[Apocalypse]

Originally posted by GhengisFarb
1)We get a more productive government like Monarchy or Republic.

We can get Republic through a war with Germany.

[Panag]

Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
* MrWhereItsAt is dying to see the save so he can make his own judgements.....

hi ,

relax , it got lost with the tam-tam , ....

you can find it in the thread ; next term times and current report MIII , .....

enjoy and be prepared , ....


indeed we should switch to a republic , ...
it would be way more productive !

have a nice day

[Shiber]

Of course we need Monarchy first. If we switch to Republic before we have built up our infrastructure and increased our population the high bonus won't be enough to justify the upkeep penalty and our economy would be ruined.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Originally posted by panag


hi ,

relax , it got lost with the tam-tam , ....

you can find it in the thread ; next term times and current report MIII , .....

enjoy and be prepared , ....


indeed we should switch to a republic , ...
it would be way more productive !

have a nice day

He was meaning being able to get his computer back so he can load it up and have a look.

[Panag]

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx


He was meaning being able to get his computer back so he can load it up and have a look.

hi ,



if we would start to get a university or two we could make him maybe a new one , ..... instead of the stone tablets he uses now , ....

so , a lot has been talked about now , should we get in an allaince with some or not , ....

have a nice day

[Treestumpx]

I believe in following the plan laid out by Mr. Farb. Personally I believe, as he does, that Alliances will prohibit us from ending these wars ASAP. Granted, his plan revolves around blooding the noses of our enemies and asking them nicely if they would like to reconsider and in any game I have played, the AI never wants to talk to my embasies that fast - but it is a sound plan.

And I agree that we skip Munich and definately grab those settlers in our territory!

[Panag]

Originally posted by Treestumpx
I believe in following the plan laid out by Mr. Farb. Personally I believe, as he does, that Alliances will prohibit us from ending these wars ASAP. Granted, his plan revolves around blooding the noses of our enemies and asking them nicely if they would like to reconsider and in any game I have played, the AI never wants to talk to my embasies that fast - but it is a sound plan.

And I agree that we skip Munich and definately grab those settlers in our territory!

hi ,

, both the settlers and munich and last but not least berlin or so , ....

have a nice day

[Shiber]

I doubt it we can take Berlin when most of our forces are still in France.
And don't forget: Berlin is a capital, AND it's a city (8 population) which gives the units defending it a 100% defensive bonus! A fortified spearman inside Berlin has 4.5 defense.
No, there's absolutely no way we can take Berlin in this war.

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by Shiber
I doubt it we can take Berlin when most of our forces are still in France.
And don't forget: Berlin is a capital, AND it's a city (8 population) which gives the units defending it a 100% defensive bonus! A fortified spearman inside Berlin has 4.5 defense.
No, there's absolutely no way we can take Berlin in this war.

Fully agree, Hamburg and sign the Peace Treaty while we're still putting out the fire.............