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**Shiber** · August 25, 2002, 11:36

That's a good plan IMHO. We have an easy-to-defend border with Greece and most of their forces are too busy up north fighting the Aztecs and the English.
PLUS, for an alliance vs Greece and Germany England is willing to give us 5 gold per turn!

**Aggie** · August 25, 2002, 14:26

I say no alliance. Yes it would be nice but I don't want to be comitted for 20 turns and I think it is 20 turns. Also we can handle this threat on our own without deep involvement in a MUCH MUCH worse war now going between greece and england and Aztec. That is one party I want to miss.

**OPD** · August 25, 2002, 15:38

Maybe we should keep some money to buy peace from Germany/Persia in a few turns

**MJW** · August 25, 2002, 15:41

okay'

**Shiber** · August 25, 2002, 15:47

I don't think we'll have to pay Persia money for peace. They are not prepared for war at all. Furthermore, they have no iron so our swordsmen can defeat their archers with ease. Then we'll capture their settlers and make them into slaves. Finally, we'll station a swordsman one tile away from Sidon or Tyre and if they still won't surrender, we'll destroy those towns.

**Panag** · August 25, 2002, 15:55

hi ,

, the english are normally not such great "friends" , .....

then again , why not , together with Greece , .....

have a nice day

**Duddha** · August 25, 2002, 15:57

If England is already at war, how much are they going to devote to our war?

**GhengisFarb™** · August 25, 2002, 16:03

NO NO NO
No alliances, we should bloody Persia and Germany's nose a bit and they'll make peace. We need to spend some time building our infrastructure and production capabilites so that we can field and maintain a Military Force in the Middle Ages that is second to none.

We're living on borrowed time by neglecting these issues IMO.

**Panag** · August 25, 2002, 16:05

Originally posted by Duddha
If England is already at war, how much are they going to devote to our war?

hi ,

, the AI devotes in most case next to nothing when on the side of the human player , when on the side of the AI , .......

and the english tend to devote next to nothing it comes to pacts , .....

still the exception confirms the rule , ....

and right now we could use all the help we can get , ...

have a nice day

**GhengisFarb™** · August 25, 2002, 16:12

We don't need any help, Germany and Persia were suprised by this war as much as we were. THEY WERE BRIBED!

Sheesh, people, you see one warrior and think we have to have 20 swordsmen for defense are we've lost the game. Persia isn't going to do much attacking with the units inside our borders because each one is defending a settler. Munich's a sleeply little town that just woke up to a nightmare. All we do is show a little force and Persia and Germany will sign a peace agreement and go back to what they were doing.

**Epistax** · August 25, 2002, 16:46

All wars must be ended ASAP. Alliances wont help that. I believe that if we take the two cities I mentioned in my thread (sorry I don't remember their names) from france, we'll be right at the bargaining (er taking) table. Once we are at peace with france, their military alliances will crumble, and Persia and Germany will be pissed at the French, and confused as to why they are fighting us. It may be possible to end the war before we see any new aggression from the Persians and Germans, but I don't think so.

Yes-- take slaves! muhahahaha

**GhengisFarb™** · August 25, 2002, 16:53

Originally posted by Epistax
All wars must be ended ASAP. Alliances wont help that. I believe that if we take the two cities I mentioned in my thread (sorry I don't remember their names) from france, we'll be right at the bargaining (er taking) table. Once we are at peace with france, their military alliances will crumble, and Persia and Germany will be pissed at the French, and confused as to why they are fighting us. It may be possible to end the war before we see any new aggression from the Persians and Germans, but I don't think so.

Yes-- take slaves! muhahahaha

Finally, someone with the common sense to not panic. We ARE NOT in trouble.

America at war with Greece?

Okay, now they'd be in trouble.................

But like Darwin said about the canary that tries to use the cat's mouth as a place to get in from the rain.... those are the creatures that NEED to be taken out of the gene pool.

**GePap** · August 25, 2002, 16:56

I must agree with Farb and Epi: say no to alliences, since they only mean longer wars, and without the building bonus, we can't afford guns and Butter like the A.I. can.

France will surrender soon eneough- they were unprepared. Germany and Persia were both unprepared. For all the tlk of Persia, they are the weaker enemy as long as they lack iron, and they lack iron. If we take Sidon and threaten cities further inland, which we can with the forces we have now (we need to upgrade all our warriors NOW) then Persia will fold.

Germany is a maor threat since they do have rion, and have some huge cities that give them immense building capacities. We need to move troops to these areas and then prepare our counter attac, and at least take Hamburg.

**wervdon** · August 25, 2002, 17:24

The only alliance id be interested in is greece vs. germany. We don't need (and dont want) help with france. We dont need help against persia unless they get their iron. A war with germany and greece could be good though, it further stretches greece out and thus keeps them from building culture more, and will distract germany. Also, it keeps greece from being bribed to attack us too, and really they are the only ones that worry me.

An alliance with england against persia is also a bad idea, I think its likely that elizabeth would win that due to her iron, and that would leave us a stronger enemy later.

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