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  • #31
    Originally posted by Shiber
    I'd prefer if one of the warriors made his way to the German front through Munich (i.e. conquered Munich and enslaved the worker there and then went to the German front). The more damage we cause to Germany, the more prune it will be towards signing a peace treaty.
    I agree. Munich is vulnerable, and Germany will come to the table much more rapidly if we punish her. Upgrade the vet warrior in Banana HQ to sword, pop-rush another sword (which would be veteran -- much better than upgrading the regular warrior there) (cost: 1 pop; 40 gp), and send them against Munich.

    Napoleton we should consider writing-off. It's virtually undefendable, given the current disposition of our military.

    Seeburg, on the other hand, I'd fight to keep. We should pop-rush walls there.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by OPD
      Also, although its risky, perhaps we could move all spearmen from our core cities to the frontline.

      We have enough millitary stength and production to take care of ourselves it's more a matter of time than anything else.
      hi ,

      we could do that , but , only if in a couple of turns those cities produce a unit , ....

      the French have ships , imagine they or someone else use a ship behind the lines , ...what about MP , .....

      have a nice day
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Robber Baron
        I agree. Munich is vulnerable, and Germany will come to the table much more rapidly if we punish her. Upgrade the vet warrior in Banana HQ to sword, pop-rush another sword (which would be veteran -- much better than upgrading the regular warrior there) (cost: 1 pop; 40 gp), and send them against Munich.

        Napoleton we should consider writing-off. It's virtually undefendable, given the current disposition of our military.

        Seeburg, on the other hand, I'd fight to keep. We should pop-rush walls there.

        Bring it, Bis!
        Munich is vulnerable and its undefendable for the Germans. There is no chance of getting more production out of the jungle. Which is exactly why we should ignore it.

        It's ours when we want it but we currently have an opportunity to take Hamburg and gain a backup iron resouce if we quickly concentrate our forces on it.

        It further secures Seeburg and actually makes Napoleton more defensible by creating a Defense Triumverate of Seeburg, Napoleton, and Hamburg with potential high production and the ability to pull in reinfocements from the other two cities should one of them be threatened.

        With that as an anchor and Ubergorsk at the other end we form a high production front line that, once equipped with barracks makes our Eastern/Southern border potentially invulnerable as the line will be able to produce units by converting to pure hill and mountain production when the need arises.

        We literally make that mountain range our "Great Wall" an obstruction that even Panzers will have to slow down for.

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        • #34
          hi ,

          we shoud remember that because of our level the AI started with some extra units , and can build them a bit faster , .....

          indeed GhengisFarb we can use the pountains as a great wall , not only shall it help in the defense , we see enemy units coming from far , ....

          a bit later after those mountains are mined and have roads we should build forts there , ....even for future use they shall remain usefull

          we can furthermore use the terrain near the site of the new yet to be born city , .....

          have a nice night
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          • #35
            I think we can safely move spearmen from our core cities as long as they're not required as military police.
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            • #36
              [QUOTE] Originally posted by GhengisFarb


              Munich is vulnerable and its undefendable for the Germans. There is no chance of getting more production out of the jungle. Which is exactly why we should ignore it.

              [QUOTE]

              Except the dyes. Their loss could hurt the Germans. We could sell them dyes in the peace treaty.
              Statistical anomaly.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Shiber
                I think we can safely move spearmen from our core cities as long as they're not required as military police.
                hi ,

                , we could even remove all the units if in such a city it would take only a couple turns to build a unit , ....

                have a nice day
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                • #38
                  Forget munich until its time to sue for peace. Then demad it for peace, if they refuse (and they may cause of the dyes), take it then make peace We could wait for the culture flip, but Joan handed us an opportunity to speed things up, so after all our other concerns are out the way why not?

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                  • #39
                    [QUOTE] Originally posted by DAVOUT
                    [QUOTE] Originally posted by GhengisFarb


                    Munich is vulnerable and its undefendable for the Germans. There is no chance of getting more production out of the jungle. Which is exactly why we should ignore it.


                    Except the dyes. Their loss could hurt the Germans. We could sell them dyes in the peace treaty.
                    They don't have dyes. They don't get those dyes unless WE connect Munich to Germany with roads.

                    We can fight another war later, but right now we have the opportunity to sack Sidon and gain Hamburg without much of a fight. We immediately sign a peace treaty and use it to move more forces to Hamburg and the Persian border, then we can declare war and rest easy knowing we have an advantage.

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                    • #40
                      wervdon,

                      I would agree with you if we demonstrate that the German production will NOT be significantly perturbated by the loss of two (?) dyes.
                      Statistical anomaly.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by GhengisFarb


                        They don't have dyes. They don't get those dyes unless WE connect Munich to Germany with roads.
                        That settles the case : go for Hamburg.
                        Statistical anomaly.
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                        • #42
                          Double post.
                          Statistical anomaly.
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                          • #43
                            In the next 10 turns we could probably build about 8 chariots and upgrade them to horses. Which would provide a good force to do some serious damage to the Perisans/Germans.

                            But we should be more concerned about an attack on us before that.

                            Although I think moving defensive units to our front line cities is a must they may not get there in time.
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                            • #44
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                              • #45
                                I’m worried about this. The Persian stack near Ubergorsk could capture our three workers in one turn. We need to do something about…
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