Turnthread orders for 290 BC

[UnOrthOdOx]

OK guys, you have ALOT of work to do.

Turns to be played on WED. unless ou guys need mre time for help from the public.

[Aggie]

Here are Final orders. Note these orders assume 10% luxuries, if not we need another spear in bhq and also i poly soon.(Ie we can't send them out)
290
Move Sword Army(SA) into paris.
Move sq,3 archers from (AA) nw,n
Move elite spear into orleans
Move warrior to BHQ
Upgrade 3 warriors in BHQ to Sword(SHIFT-U)
Upgrade warrior in Tass to Sw
Tass Spear to geofront
Termina Spear Goto to Gaia, then use as needed
Poly Spear goto Geofront
Spear in Loveshack e,n to take worker prisoner.
Gaia Spear to Del Monte, becareful not to give spear target, I doubt he'll take it, but be safe.(I noticed that the second move will end across river from spear, please end 1 sq earlier to avoid danger.)
Galleys to point sw,s of Apolyton, may I suggest the settler and a spear go there to board. (After this I declare them in the hands of imperial expansion to make the jump to Uber Isle.

270
SA move 5 sw from paris Nw,N
Move other 2 swords into Paris.(Due to small size garrison will be 2)
AA NW to se of Rheims
archer in orleans n,nw,n and one n of orleans nw,n
3 sword in BHQ move NW(Note" I've noticed the AI loves hills and that settler stack w of loveshack is awfully close to that mountain, if it is 1 square away, please use one of sword to occupy hill. Doubtful but if the AI sees the opportunity it might take it. Also make sure the settler stack e of loveshack doesn't camp out on some mountain somewhere.
1 sword goto delmonte to get robin hood, use same movement strategy you did for spearman.
Thee three swords from Bhq will now be known as sword army 2(SWA2)
Spear Ne of Loveshack goto Geofront, if settle stack near, use this force to herd the stack so swords can kill them.

250
Attack Rheims. Use archers on city side of river first and then if necessary use the ones across river on defenders. YES THIS A GAMBLE. Also if we win and units are available enter into rheims.
SA move N
SA2 Attacks archer stacks nearby, if 2 swordsmen are available and archer stack nearby.

230
SA attacks Marselles
SA2 Hunts settler stacks(once these are gone rest up to max and attack Munich). Also use spear from loveshack, if possible to help, so if attack swordsmen will be ok.
Also this turn make peace if joan allows I suspect the deal will depend on our sucess. At this point either our armies would have failed or have won but will be too weakened to do anything. Please redistribute forces to makes sure no flip, ie troops = number of enemy citizens.

Build orders:
Temples in all captured cities. Change appropriate workers to entertainers or taxmen to keep peace.

For the German persian front the outline is
Kill settler stacks and then take munich
Make peace with german
If army or more is left go after close persians cities and then make peace with them.
Note we attack munich regardless of size, if it is destroyed oh well.

A Request:
Godking please give me horsemen so I can use in operations.

Last note:
I might appear I am not expecting a counterattack. In fact I am, but consider it best to ignore the attack unless they go after city. Most likely they will go for the army in the field, whick will be in a jungle. So orders basically are IGNORE enemy units and press north to marselles. If this was in chat format it would be easier since I' cant foresee where enemy troops will appear, but I'm sure they will.

FINAL NOTE:
Yes I changed my mind and decided to roll the dice on Rheims, since if we don't it most lilkely will pop rush to 1 and that will be an extrra unit for us to fight and it want matter because at 1 it will autoraze since no cultural expansion yet. My estametes say with the 5th archer we will probably win, butif we lose we will ahve to make peace after marselles, of course after marselles we were probably going to have to make peace anyway I suspect or autoraze Rheims, anyway archers are nearing the end of usefulness now

Aggie

[Shiber]

EDIT: Sorry, I pressed post without finishing my message and I didn't notice.
Read the complete message below.

[Panag]

hi ,

Aggie , those chariots could mean GA , should we have ours now , .....

Shiber , why not use the archer or and swordsman to attack if they come true to marsailles , ...

or should we focus on marseilles , .....

the less places the have , the less units can come our way , ...

have a nice day

[Aggie]

Panag I wou;d like the cahriots ungraded to horsemen.
Sheiber, a elite spearman + an archer in orleans should be enough. I suspect there are few offensive units s and e of there. With out army pushing toward marselles they will most likely concentrate there.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Aggie
Panag I wou;d like the cahriots ungraded to horsemen.
Sheiber, a elite spearman + an archer in orleans should be enough. I suspect there are few offensive units s and e of there. With out army pushing toward marselles they will most likely concentrate there.

hi ,

; okay

indeed that would be usefull , and we would have something that could move faster for ones

as for the rest ; we should go after marseilles

the best defense is offense

have a nice day

[Shiber]

I suggest that you leave an additional garrison unit in Orleans. Troops from Marseilles are likely to try to take Orleans back.
I suggest that we leave one additional archer there while a swordsman makes its way towards Orleans. Once the swordsman is there is can replace both the additional archer and the wounded archer (which will be healed by then).
If we don't do this then there's a significant chance that Orleans will be retaken.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Shiber
I suggest that you leave an additional garrison unit in Orleans. Troops from Marseilles are likely to try to take Orleans back.
I suggest that we leave one additional archer there while a swordsman makes its way towards Orleans. Once the swordsman is there is can replace both the additional archer and the wounded archer (which will be healed by then).
If we don't do this then there's a significant chance that Orleans will be retaken.

hi ,

so we have an archer and a swordsman to play with , ....we could start to let them "work" a bit , .....

Shiber , what do you feel about going for marseille

have a nice day

[Shiber]

The spearman is elite, true, but it will take 2 turns of resting in Orleans for it to reach full health. In the mean time France will have one shot at Orleans.
Anyway, we can take Chartes with just 3 veteran archers. They'll meet no more than two regular spearmen, and though they'll have 2.7 defense (25% from fortifying, 10% from terrain) our archers have better chances because they are veterans (3 veteran archers vs. 2 regular spearmen = 12 hit points vs. 6 hit points).

[Shiber]

To answer Panag: IMHO we should send 4 swordsmen to Marseilles and 1 to Orleans to counter attacks from Rheims (I expect we'll be seeing French swordsmen soon).

[Shiber]

I've changed my mind: send 4 swordsmen to Marseilles and keep 1 swordsman in the tile N of Paris to watch in case French swordsmen swarm in. The remaining two swordsmen will garrison Paris and serve as military police, of course.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Shiber
To answer Panag: IMHO we should send 4 swordsmen to Marseilles and 1 to Orleans to counter attacks from Rheims (I expect we'll be seeing French swordsmen soon).

hi ,

, anything we can do with those two we have now , .......except for killing a couple of French units , ....

we should go after marseille , ....

have a nice day

[Panag]

Originally posted by Shiber
I've changed my mind: send 4 swordsmen to Marseilles and keep 1 swordsman in the tile N of Paris to watch in case French swordsmen swarm in. The remaining two swordsmen will garrison Paris and serve as military police, of course.

hi ,

we also have two archers , a group of three swordsman and two archers could do the trick , ...

have a nice day

[Shiber]

Marseilles has a luxury so it must be heavily guarded.
Hey, I just thought of something really cool: once the war is over and we've secured France's two wine tiles, we can sell their own wines to them for gpt!!

[Panag]

Originally posted by Shiber
Marseilles has a luxury so it must be heavily guarded.
Hey, I just thought of something really cool: once the war is over and we've secured France's two wine tiles, we can sell their own wines to them for gpt!!

hi ,

, well they shall not have money to buy from us , ...

it does not mean that it has a luxury that it is heavily guarded , ....Paris was easy , ....

but we have to make this war a fast one , otherwise they build more units , .....

have a nice day