Foreign Ministry Office -- Term III

[MrWhereItsAt]

In the interests of total, blinding clarity, I have some questions about the preliminary orders posted in the 210 BC turnthread orders:

If it is at all possible (unlikely as it is) to accept a peace from Germany that includes Munich before any attacking has been done, would that be acceptable? I suggest this only in the case that they get really startled with our troops approaching Munich, or they need peace with us due to a more important war elsewhere.

May I attempt to trade our TM only after we have discovered Uber Isle, but before any city is built there (which I have no orders to do anyway)?

Are the definitions of decent tech trade deals and unapplicable situations for your orders on demands from other civs wholly up to my judgment or do you have some more specific advice here?

[Togas]

Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
If it is at all possible (unlikely as it is) to accept a peace from Germany that includes Munich before any attacking has been done, would that be acceptable?

I'm awaiting the end of the Poll on Peace with Germany to finish before finalizing our policy towards Germany, but if the policy becomes "take Munich then peace with Germany", getting Munich with a peace deal would be perfectly acceptable.

Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
May I attempt to trade our TM only after we have discovered Uber Isle, but before any city is built there (which I have no orders to do anyway)?

That would be fine, except I wouldn't ask you to go to the trouble. We won't make much, if any, profit from our TM, but if a nation requests a TM for TM trade, there's no harm in trading that.

Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
Are the definitions of decent tech trade deals and unapplicable situations for your orders on demands from other civs wholly up to my judgment or do you have some more specific advice here?

Unless I post something specific, you should use your own good judgement.

--Togas

[Darkness' Edge]

Resignation

I apologise, but due to unforseen events in the SMAC democracy game, I must hereby resign as deputy minister.

I may nominate in a future election, but for now, I really do not have the time.

Darkness' Edge

[Togas]

Foreign Affairs Report, 130 BC

We have only one enemy now, and that is Persia.

Germany has capitulated to our heavy demands for all of their gold and 8gpt. We are forwarding their payments to the French.

Persia is showing signs of light resistance in the form of archers, but they have yet to acquire Iron. Breif talks with Persia have found that they are willing to pay us 24g now and 10gpt for peace. They will not, however, give us any cities or technology. Currently Persia has Theology.

Persia, Germany, Greece, and Russia all have Theology, but none will trade it to us for anything. No more advanced technology is known by the civilizations we know.

We are ahead of only the Iriquois and Americans as far as technology goes. The Americans will pay us 40g and their WM for knowledge about the Republic form of government. The Iriquois offer much less -- 9g and WM. Neither of these nations will give anything more.

Surveys of the map reveal nothing new in the Greco-German-Anglo-Aztec war. They remain at war. Our new embassy has revealed that the Aztecs are in their Golden Age, and they are equally advanced compared to us.

Our estranged French outpost has watched a group of Roman Legionaries walk by, headed north east. They avoided the city, but where they are going remains a mystery.

Trade is close, but it depends almost entirely on a single French worker who is digging a road south east of Chartres. When he is done, we will have our road to wines, and we may well have a road to the Greeks and French!

Tassagrad's harbor will be finished in 9 turns, allowing trade with Rome.

Our capitol city has joined the race for Sun Tzu's Art of War. We are in competition with Persia, Germany, Babylon, Greece, and Rome, who have already started on the project. We will build this wonder or (likely) switch to one of the many valuable Middle Ages Wonders.

--Togas

[Togas]

Vacation

I will be leaving for my vacation on 9/7, and flying back on 9/14. I won't actively return to work until 9/15.

adaMada will be in charge during that week. He's fully briefed and will be a very capable substitute.

If you have any questions before I go, please send them via PM. I'll answer them before I go.

--Togas

[Panag]

hi ,

we should not trade our TM or WM at least until we have explored the whole island , and who knows , what other great places may lay there , ...

have a nice day

[Shiber]

This was already agreed upon. Read the orders thread.
Also, this thread is not the appropriate place to post suggestions and criticism, it's a thread only to be used by the Foreign Minister and his deputies and maybe other government officials. If you have a complaint or a suggestion start a discussion thread about it.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Shiber
This was already agreed upon. Read the orders thread.
Also, this thread is not the appropriate place to post suggestions and criticism, it's a thread only to be used by the Foreign Minister and his deputies and maybe other government officials. If you have a complaint or a suggestion start a discussion thread about it.

hi ,

before you post , maybe you have to know the reason as to why some one posts this or that , .....

not that its really important ; it is meant that we should not do it , point , its in support of it , its an expression of a feeling , ....

satisfied now , good , now stop to fall in yourold habits , .....

everyone has a limit when it comes to patience , .....
dont push some one behind that limit , ...

have a nice day

[MrWhereItsAt]

Picture of Rome from the 210 BC embassy opening

Sun Tzu;s is built in 57 turns, growht of city in 3 turns, 4 culture per turn, 230 culture total.

[Apocalypse]

Peria is now willing to trade at the cost of 427. Think we can add it into the peace treaty if we do not have it by then?

[MrWhereItsAt]

Two developments:

In 90BC England and Greece signed a treaty, and
in 59 BC Germany and America signed an alliance against the Aztecs

That's it, I'm dead. See you all.

[Shiber]

MWIA means that Germany and America signed an alliance against the Aztecs in 50BC, he's just too tired to hit the right keys.

[DAVOUT]

That does not sound good for our second American campaign.

[adaMada]

Re: Foreign Affairs Report, 30 BC

Our war with Persia continues on.

We have established an embassy with the Romans, which will allow for better diplomatic communication.

We have seen sudden and dramatic changes to the war that has come to include much of our continent, with the exception of ourselves. England and Greece signed a peace treaty, which will return England to peace. Germany managed to convince the Americans to join the war on its side. This may pose an additional problem for us, for should the Aztecs manage to take American cities we will loose their much coveted land. On behalf of the Foreign Ministry, I've requested that the War Academy consider the situation.

The Foreign Ministry may also want to consider the issue of the future of the Aztecs. As the odds mount against the Aztecs, who are now under attack from Germany, Greece, and America, and also find themselves without allies, we must consider if we plan to allow the Germans and Greeks to take such a large part of the continent for themselves, and (should we find this undesirable) strategies to prevent this from happening without entering the war itself.

Finally, as each turn passes, we find ourselves in a better and better position to acquire Theology. We will soon be in a position to acquire it at a reasonable price as a part of a conclusion to the Persian war, and perhaps also in a position to buy it from another nation for a reasonable price as the technology becomes more commonplace.

-- adaMada

[GePap]

I would like to announce that I am back, and that promptly I will update the foreign civs report for 30 bc. And as a question, when are the new elections?