Protest

[kring]

Inter-continental travel may or may not require anything beyond Galley/Map Making, depending on how close the islands/continents are, and what kind of waters separate, and how wide the seas/oceans are. In some games I have played, they are close enough a Galley can make it without risk; in other games, you need advanced techs to reach. Maybe one of map trades will yield this info if we don't find it ourselves first.

[Shiber]

Currently there's nothing in sight but the open sea.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Not true, there is an island north of Greece and whales can be seen south, meaning an island is down there too.

[Shiber]

You're right, I see them now.
That doesn't necessarily mean there's a large landmass there that we can call a continent... if there is another continent in the map at all.

[Panag]

hi ,

every seatown should build at least one !

why , well to fight barb ships , to trans port units , to explore the sea , to visit our neigbors so we can trade with them , to do so many great things , ....

now , who ever is against them ought to explain why , because there are no drawbacks on this , only positive things !

have a nice day

[DAVOUT]

I want to clarify my point : I protested, and I still protest, because resources are being spent without prior and specific approval by the people. Now tell me that all our laws, rights and constitution are just for the show, and that the minister can spent what amount they like on what project they choose, but stop explaining that galleys are useful.

Sorry to be upset, but that type of situation resembles too much for me to actual politics.

[Kuciwalker]

DAVOUT - Again, I posted a petition for Galleys that received enough signatures to be enacted. It was not against the will of the people.

[DAVOUT]

I understood a petition as a mean to raise a subject, not to settle it, all the more with only 15 yes. This is a strange decision process, but we are under despotism, after all.

I draw the attention of any rigorous citizen that in signing a petition, they can commit themselves for war transportation when they thought of exploration.

[Panag]

Originally posted by DAVOUT
I want to clarify my point : I protested, and I still protest, because resources are being spent without prior and specific approval by the people. Now tell me that all our laws, rights and constitution are just for the show, and that the minister can spent what amount they like on what project they choose, but stop explaining that galleys are useful.

Sorry to be upset, but that type of situation resembles too much for me to actual politics.

hi ,

now , what is wrong , allas galleys are usefull , .....

two , resources are spend at will by the gov. , when one does not like it , he or she should vote oterwise in the next election , or take the matter to court , ......

have a nice day

[Kuciwalker]

The petition was to build a galley. It mentioned that they could be used for exploration and possibly other purposes, but their use exploration was not a condition of their construction. Also, the petition can be considered a sort of poll, and far more people signed it than said they wouldn't sign it, which is really just like a poll.

[DAVOUT]

Originally posted by panag


hi ,


resources are spend at will by the gov. ,

OK, so dont make polls on production plans.

[DAVOUT]

Originally posted by skywalker
Also, the petition can be considered a sort of poll,

On that line, you have as well the deferential request, which is a sort of petition, the respectful suggestion which is a sort of deferential request, etc ..., but unfortunately, only the poll is mentionned in the COL.

[Panag]

Originally posted by DAVOUT


OK, so dont make polls on production plans.

hi ,

yes you do , but not on every little single detail , .......

have a nice day

[Kuciwalker]

The petition is a poll in the sense that a signature is a "yes" vote and someone posting that they don't agree is a "no" vote. I believe that only two or three people disagreed, and there were something like 15+ signatures.

[DAVOUT]

With the difference that no one feels obliged to answer a petition, whereas a good citizen consider as a duty answering a poll. This is the meaning of the formal procedure of the polls.

Anyway, you will not convince me that a petition has the value of a poll, and I will not convince you that a democracy cannot live without a clear decision process. So, lets stop here. There are plenty of subjects which find us agreing.