Protest

[Shiber]

It seems that it would take many turns before we finish building two swordsmen. In the meantime, shouldn't we use our galleys (once we have them) to explore and colonize Uber Isle rather than let them sit idly?

[Vlad Antlerkov]

Shiber: We're not really building swordsmen. Rather, we're building warriors and upgrading to swordsmen once we get the iron linked up. Money doesn't seem to be much of an issue here.

[DAVOUT]

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
You write it, I'll print it.

However, for your convenience: This is the SMC plan. See how galleys drop off 4 Swords to march directly to Paris, assuring us that Paris is the first target.

Plan Gold, like case (insert color) is largely a production plan to assemble the army, not the tactics of how the army is to be used. It basically states building warriors and mass upgrading. The bits about tactics are discussion, not the actual plan. The plan will likely change to fit the stituation 20 turns from now. I hope that this clears up any of your confusion.

PS, I propose we call the SMC plan "Uber's Maneuver" from here on...

I don’t want to be nasty or anything unpleasant (with a journalist you have better be cautious ), but for a man in the street like me, the confusion is just slightly increased : there is now another formally approved plan, the SMC plan, and the Gold Plan is nothing more than a production plan totally mute on the galleys matter.

[Shiber]

Originally posted by Vlad Antlerkov
Shiber: We're not really building swordsmen. Rather, we're building warriors and upgrading to swordsmen once we get the iron linked up. Money doesn't seem to be much of an issue here.

You are absolutely right. I forgot about this.
Now it seems that we should keep the galley waiting.

[Spiffor]

The 2nd galley should be ready when Iron is connected, or a bit sooner

[Shiber]

Who is in charge of the galleys once they complete their military purpose?

[Harovan]

IIRC the SMC

[Spiffor]

Since the SMC was in charge of land exploration, I assume he'll be in charge of sea exploration

[Shiber]

Please excuse my blatant ignorance, but what does SMC stand for?

[UnOrthOdOx]

Supreme Military Commander


I think Uber just wasnt happy enough with Minister of Military...

there is now another formally approved plan, the SMC plan, and the Gold Plan is nothing more than a production plan totally mute on the galleys matter.

That is mostly right. Plan Gold, while it does not mention the Galley's, is really a plan to build 10(? can't remember exact #) warriors to be upgraded once Iron is connected. Uber believes that we can build 2 galley's in the same time and then use those galleys to give us a direct shot at Paris, thereby destroying most of the production capabilities.

[DAVOUT]

SMC : Supreme Military Commander : UberKrux

In charge of sea exploration by assumption ? Interesting, I'd like to see him in a galley starting around the world

[Shiber]

In case anyone was wondering:
Time until we have iron in all our connected cities: 9 turns.
Cost of upgrading a warrior to swordsmen: 40 gold.

[Shiber]

How many warriors are we going to upgrade to swordsmen anyway? I know the plan is to build 10 warriors, but surely you can't be serious about upgrading 10 warriors to swordsmen. It'll cost us 400 gold and would leave us with dead-end units (there are no upgrades for swordsmen) which would mean we'll have to strike another foe quickly or else our swordsmen will become obsolete in the next era.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Which is why I was against the plan, but the majority have spoken.

[Ninot]

lets look at something

we have a potential tech-whore plan to get us into the Medieval era... next turnchat.

that means wonderous nations like France pottentially will have pikemen in 9 turns. That makes a swordsmen rush just that more unplausible (is that a word?).

And, by the time we have swordsmen on their borders, how far will they be from Knights? how far will we be?

There is quite a lot that can go wrong. We won't be having any more Battles of Washington or New York IMHO. A war on France could get interesting, and not in a pleasant way.