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  • Foriegn Minister Report - 1450BC

    Not sure if the votes have ended or not, (tho I think it should be, it IS 2 days after the voting stops right?). But I thought I'd fit the part
    <----

    Anyway, I've just downloaded the current game. (it's so damn hard to find it, I mean, the fact it is hidden in some thread that gives you no clue that it might be in there just doesn't help, we really need a topped thread just for keeping the current game for ppl to download).



    Anyway down to business, so I had a look at our current position (well my current position anyway), we seem to have a fairly good amount of knowledge on the map and I believe it would be worth quite a lot to other Civs now. I had a wee chat with each of the leaders to see how much money they have, knowledge, etc. And I strongly believe we can get map making, everyones world map and we'll only lose about 20 or less bucks. mind you, I have not played ahead! So I could be wrong, but I've done this a thousand times before, and I am 99% sure it will work.

    Obviously I'll need to talk with Spiffor and maybe Civman2000 (there's only mapmaking to get so there's really not much desicion making there yet). Once we've sorted something out, we'll let the citizens know and we'll see how you all feel about it.

    Remember, we get map making and everyones world/territory(possibly only the Germans will trade territory and not their world map), and it'll only cost us about 20 gold or less.
    be free

  • #2
    Sounds good
    You saw what you wanted
    You took what you saw
    We know how you did it
    Your method equals wipe out

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    • #3
      If you need my agreement for buying MapMaking for less than 211 gold, I give it gladly. After all, all this money must serve a purpose.
      However, in my approaches of mapwhoring, I couldn't get all world maps without selling our own. And many people disagree with selling our map.
      "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
      "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
      "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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      • #4
        got mine too

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        • #5
          I think we could sell our own map if it helps us to get all the other maps because knowledge the world is very important in my opinion, and we should sell it before other civs explore our territory, because that would make it worthless.

          But if too many people disagree with that...


          (I hope you can understand my english )
          FRANCE.

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          • #6
            Wait no i dont approve i just found a better deal for mapmaking: for only 195 from france!

            I didnt look at every single civ though, there may be even better deals out there!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Schee
              I think we could sell our own map if it helps us to get all the other maps because knowledge the world is very important in my opinion, and we should sell it before other civs explore our territory, because that would make it worthless.

              But if too many people disagree with that...


              (I hope you can understand my english )
              i disagree
              "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
              - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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              • #8
                Buy Mapmaking from French for 150g and World Map.
                Buy Territory Map from Romans for whatever they want. (Probably World Map)
                Buy Territory Map from Greece for whatever they want. (Probably World Map)
                Buy Territory Map from US for whatever they want. (Probably World Map)
                Buy World Map from Aztecs for whatever they want. (Probably Mathematics)
                Buy World Map from Iroquoi for whatever they want. (Probably Mathematics)
                Buy World Map from English for whatever they want. (Probably World Map)
                Buy World Map from Russians for whatever they want. (Not sure)
                Buy World Map from Babylonians for whatever they want. (Not sure)

                Sell World Map to Germans for as much as they will buy it for. (They have 72G)
                Sell World Map to Romans for as much as they will buy it for. (They have 162G)
                Sell World Map to English for as much as they have. (2g)
                Sell World Map to US for as much as they have. (They have 66G)
                Sell World Map to French for as much as they have. (1g)
                Sell World Map to Russians for as much as they have. (1g)



                So in summary, we started with 237, and with it we bought Mapmaking for 150. So we're down to 87G.
                By buying the world maps and territory maps we've made our maps the most valuable to all civs. So they're
                going to pay a lot of money for it. I doubt the romans are going to pay all 162, (maybe around 50-60 for it).
                Germans will probably pay all of their money (72G) for it and so will the US, so if we assume the romans pay 50G
                and we add them all up we get 192G plus our 87 that brings us to 279G, and out of it we got Mapmaking and basically
                everyones map. If you're worried about giving tech and world maps out to everyone, just remember that it's only a
                matter of time before the civs start trading it themselves and we miss out. And we must do all of this on the same turn.

                Again this is coming from good experience, I do this all the time at the beginning of the game, I am 99% sure we will benefit strongly from this, but again my caculations probably aren't perfect, but they will be damn close, I am sure of that.

                Thoughts?
                Last edited by FrostyBoy; July 17, 2002, 19:03.
                be free

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                • #9
                  Civman, why are you getting 195 from France and I am getting 150 from France? odd. I hope I am playing the correct game. 1450BC right?
                  be free

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                  • #10
                    Uber. re the Isle.

                    Since the tiles are darked, would the AI "see" the whale and the coast? Are we benefiting from a little human ingenuity and a glitch in the borders of unexplored territory?

                    I agree with you though, seeing a French gally go by and pink borders showing up across the straights would suck.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by notyoueither
                      Uber. re the Isle.

                      Since the tiles are darked, would the AI "see" the whale and the coast? Are we benefiting from a little human ingenuity and a glitch in the borders of unexplored territory?

                      I agree with you though, seeing a French gally go by and pink borders showing up across the straights would suck.
                      possibly. hell, i dont know what soren coded
                      "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
                      - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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                      • #12
                        If you're worried about giving tech and world maps out to everyone, just remember that it's only a
                        matter of time before the civs start trading it themselves and we miss out.
                        Exactly what I thought !

                        I completely agree with you Sn00py (I voted for the good one )
                        FRANCE.

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                        • #13
                          think i'm using 1450 ...i went to the tuesday turnthread page and downloaded the save on page 3...

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                          • #14
                            Sn00py : we probably don't have the same save : how could you buy mapmaking for 150 gold from France ? France is the cheapest seller, and sells it for 195 AFAIK.
                            I also estimate other Civs won't buy our world map for more than 30 gold : if you look at the difference of price when you offer your world map and gold in a deal, and then offer only gold, you'll notice that the AI doesn't demand much gold in compensation. this proves it values our map poorly
                            (more precisely, the Greeks would sell us MapMaking for our map + 168 gold, or for 210 gold. The Greeks evaluate our map to be 32 gold worth)
                            Last edited by Spiffor; July 17, 2002, 18:30.
                            "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                            "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                            "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                            • #15
                              COnfirmed: I have 1450. You must have an old save

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