Ethics

[eewolf]

greetings citizens of apolytonia!

i have drifted briefly into your universe to see how your struggling civilization is doing. not surprised to see you have grown out of your jungle and are doing quite nicely.

it is interesting to note that you still have slavery. if i remember correctly, one of the big arguments for having slaves was the dire condition of your ancient civ. funny how similar that is to my world. what, pray tell, are the ruling class feeding the common folk now.

i look back fondly on the short time we had creating this thread. it was fun. and no flame wars. civil discourse still alive. i hope it has enabled some to see beyond appearance and strive for betterment.

my time is short. i must be ready to be in washington dc soon. there is a great need for strong voices in my world, too. (all are invited)

good luck in your adventure. and, its never too late to stand.

ps: i cannot remember all of the questions and statements posted here aimed in my general direction. but in answer to these:

the evils of slavery have been known for thousands of years. it was abandoned in the democratic republic of america less than 150 years ago. it was not a grand awakening. if you wanted to know if slavery was wrong 2500 years ago, you could have asked any slave and gotten your answer.

those who rule lie.

on this question: is it ethical to bomb innocent civilians in war?

answer:

rulers (out of danger): yes
business and trade (out of reach): yes
civilians: no

eewolf: no

look inward and answer. and stand.

best wishes,
eewolf

[Zero]

Here's more annoying question, sorry folks.

Who is civilian? If we are to say to bomb business and industries, then are civilians who work in those industries not guilty as well? Is paying taxes considered siding with the government?

Who stands innocent in the crossfire of war?

[Zero]

Originally posted by dejon
Calc II:

You are quite right - I did not make myself clear in that post. I was bemoaning the fact that, with some exceptions, I typically have not seen people try to use Real Life ethics, values, or morality (use whatever label you like, we could go on and on trying to define their distinctions) in their gaming. I understand that it IS gaming, and pure escapism from RL for people, but it still bothers me that such a large majority simply want to kill, kill, kill in their entertainment. Whether it is FPS gamers, RPG gamers (PKs or those who are hunting everything else - not many just take up professions), or even CIV Demo communities, the first inclination is always death and destruction. Yes, most games themselves are geared towards it, but not all, and those are the ones we play, and there is little, if any, attempt to play them differently.

Though most are distancing themselves from "real life ethics" as you put it, but I expect no less the same if the enviroment in real life was the same as the world of gaming. Think anarchy where not much of crime is policed by anyone. Just as if player killing is not policed by games. People have different idea of ethics and I believe online gaming is a case where this is so firmly proven.

[Arnelos]

Originally posted by eewolf
my time is short. i must be ready to be in washington dc soon. there is a great need for strong voices in my world, too. (all are invited)

Do you mean RL Washington, DC by any chance? That's my neck of the woods

Only problem is that this isn't exactly an opportune time to visit...