War Academy: Strategies for Case Pink

[Andreiguy]

after our peace treaty expires.

Peace treaties are automatically recreated after each 20 turns, but we can still renegotate them manually and then declare war. (Or just declare war, it does not make a difference in our reputation.)

[Ninot]

it does make a difference in reputation. A treaty after war has a 20 turn limit, like any other "deal".

And it will change us in the views of other nations as well. Its bad to declare war every 5 turns.

[Theseus]

I couldn't participate in the chat, and my suggestions were ignored (that's OK, btw).

But I want to point them out again, and then discuss going forward.

1) I would have preferred 1 Warrior prior to the Barracks or Settler in Apo. The lack of map knowledge kills me.

2) The westward Warrior should have infringed on France's territory, so we'd know Paris' terrain.

No insult intended, but I think it's absurd to have Warriors exploring far off lands while we don;t know what's going on within 10 tiles of our cities... not that distant exploration isn't good / necessary, but we need to know the map nearby.

I suggest switching Apo to a Warrior or Archer NOW, and then building the Settler. The unit can then be used to explore, and then as a rover in the attack on Paris.

[notyoueither]

We need that settler now Theseus. It has alrady been delayed by about 13 or 14 turns.

Yes the worker we built will prove valuable. The Barracks first was about all the extra delay we can brook.

The city that the settler will build is scheduled to contribute to the initial wave of troops for the war.

I agree that the warriors now should circle to explore near us. I will not complain about progress so far though. We found the Iroquois first and were able to secure tech because of it.

[notyoueither]

BTW. I think our warrior is circling Paris and should get a view of the city itself from the mountains west of it in a few turns.

I think Trip and Uber plan to flesh out the area between France and US with the first archers built. They will have a bit of time while they wait for the final troops.

[Theseus]

nye,

Yes, good good good.

1 Warrior would have been OK, though, I think... I haven't figured out the math though, so I might be wrong.

In Despotism, a town with 1 garrisoned Warrior needs an entertainer at 3 or 4 pop?

[Guardian]

Originally posted by Andreiguy


Peace treaties are automatically recreated after each 20 turns (...)

This is not entirely correct.
If the peace treaty was signed unconditionally, it will remain standing after 20 turns, kind of like a trade agreement that is not renegotiated. It will not automatically be renewed for another 20 turns, it will just remain in effect "until further notice". So, technically, once the initial 20 turns have passed, the treaty can be cancelled or renegotiated at any time.

Also, if the AI had to give us anything at all in return for peace, they will automatically come back after 20 turns and ask to extend the peace treaty. (Though this time they will want to do it unconditionally.)

[notyoueither]

Theseus,

1 Warrior keeps the 2nd pop working. The 3rd pop goes unhappy. Sir Ralph suggested we build a spearman after the settler to keep the city producing at 3 pop. That spearman is called for in the plan and it can stay in Apolyton until the last of the 6 archers is finished.

[Harovan]

After the Pink Army departs (no spearman anymore), one citizen of Apolyton has to be switched to specialist. To taxman, if the city is still size 3, to entertainer if it is size 4. We should get rid of the unproductive citizen ASAP by producing 10 shields and then poprush a temple. After this, another settler is due.

Btw: It's not good to produce a settler in Banana HQ now. I'd suggest to switch this to warrior (according to Case Pink) to produce an initial garrison for the Red City. It's the small details that save us time.

[Theseus]

I agree... build a Warrior.

Also, French Warrior (is that right?) should intrude on France's territory on the mountain that is 2 tiles to the NW of Paris. We NEED to know whether Paris is on a hill, and where the rivers are.

[trevor]

I'm new to this grand republic. Can I still join the Academy? BTW, I belong to the DIA but I think that we must crush the pinks to better our economy. Sadly I cannot add any ideas on the coming war because I have no clue what is going on, can some one up date me on the current situation?

[Harovan]

trevor: I signed you up. The official join thread is this.

[Aggie]

First of all I support this plan totally and thank everyone for their good work. Just a question and a comment.
1) Is there a danger of either france and america getting writting and then having the danger of an alliance against us?. If this should happen what are the plans we have against it. I remember one game where russia had every known country against me, so i worry about that.
2) if we were going to clear that jungle square anyway it is better we clear it before we build the road since that way the road cost less time. So by doing that we saved time. Unless ofcourse the jungle was not meant to be cleared until later.
Aggie

[notyoueither]

Yes Aggie, the longer the plan takes the larger the possibility of any number of problems arising. The French could get swordsmen. The Americans could ally with them. I think we should build defencive spearmen in BanahaHQ, Red and Blue City as soon as the archers depart.

re The military highway that I proposed as part of the plan. Well, it appears as if nobody is paying much attention to the mathematics of our workers. We can easily build the highway before our 2 workers are needed for additional clearing back home, and that highway would be very useful sooner rather than later for getting resources and luxuries back to the capitol. However, it doesn't appear as if the ministers (or very many others) agree with me.

[Harovan]

I think the southern worker should put his effort on mining and roading grassland around the southern city sites, we need more shields now, or else the unit building will take very long.