Palace Jump

[notyoueither]

Disband to Settler. Capitol jumps to 2nd city (hopefully in greener pastures). Rebuild immediately on this site.

Call the new (old) city Tripanus. It will eventually be a great metropolis. In the mean time it can feed settlers into the jungle.

I think the great expanse of banana land justifies a small exploit in this case.

[mwaf]

I agree with Spiffor and notyoueither, we should rebuild Apolyton once it's been abandoned.

Although, I do think it should still be named Apolyton.

Besides, we wouldn't want someone else founding a citry on the same spot as the city where we all were born, would we?

Our cultural border should cover the grassland south of the Notylopa Jungle, we don't want intruders on our Aploytonian continent!

[Harovan]

1 - yes.
2 - yes.

Good job so far, punkbass . No complaint from the opposition. But do me a favor and plonk a city (in cooperation with Timeline) with that damn second settler near the capital. Every turn it moves is one too many, it loses its advantage quick.

[Eli]

I agree.

The jungle is too big and it will take millenia to road it.

I see two possibilities(both of them suck) -
1) We're on an island filled with jungle.
2) The jungle is huge, but it ends.

In both cases, we cant leave a capitol at the current spot.

[civman2000]

Leave apolyton, it has a pretty good location, i see no reason to ever disband it. However, once we have a significant number of cities (5 or 6 maybe) we should move, if we're out of the jungle.

Oh, and please say banana in the polls, not abstain

[The Viceroy]

I agree with Civman on this, we don't even know if there is a place to move as yet. Keep the capital for now, explore more, and build a few more cities, if we need to move the capital due to corruption then, we can then. Last thing we want to do is disband Apolyton, only to be wondering in the jungle for 10-20 turns looking for the ideal spot.

[Nym]

Of course we should wait before abandoning Apolyton. Even if its location is poor for a capital, it still produces commerce and so gold or science. I think we should keep on exploring until finding a new location for our empire, then build some cities. At this point Apolyton could be abandoned by producing a settler so to make the palace jump and New Apolyton could be built at the same location, which is still valuable for a city.

[Apocalypse]

1. Abstain
2. Yes

I'm generally against palace jumping, but if we do it, the proposal seems fine.

[Pythagoras]

Originally posted by punkbass2000


I am not sure why you believe this, but in any case, it needs to be decided now, as many of the ramifications (if ramifications can occur retroactively) need to be decided upon now.

Sorry I didnt read the questions. Yes we should palace jump, but as to where - that depends on what our nation looks like which might not be really known until we're out of BC years.

[ThePlagueRat]

Originally posted by Nym
Of course we should wait before abandoning Apolyton. Even if its location is poor for a capital, it still produces commerce and so gold or science. I think we should keep on exploring until finding a new location for our empire, then build some cities. At this point Apolyton could be abandoned by producing a settler so to make the palace jump and New Apolyton could be built at the same location, which is still valuable for a city.

I think that's just perfect! If it will work out then.... and if it's the enlightened people's true will? we'll see...
Yeah, our dear Ministeries: Prepare the votation now!

[Spiffor]

I just thought about something :
When we'll abandon Apolyton, which city will become the capital ? (sorry, I never lost my capital). Will it be the one next to Apolyton, probably in the jungle, or the most populated one ?
Should we be prepared to abandon a bunch of cities to get the palace where it should be ? It seems to be very risky.

[FrustratedPoet]

I believe that when you abandon your capital it automatically jumps to whatever city you founded 2nd.

If that is the case then we will have to be very careful where we send our current settler to found a city, otherwise we'll be no better off than we are now.

[Harovan]

No, it's most likely the most populated one. This simple rule can be messed up only with a wonder. I once had prepared a size-7 city for the new capital, but it jumped to a size-4 city with the Great Library.

SirPleb of CivFanatics posted a few links recently, you can find them here.

[FrustratedPoet]

Thanks for that info.

[Captain]

Originally posted by Nym
Of course we should wait before abandoning Apolyton. Even if its location is poor for a capital, it still produces commerce and so gold or science. I think we should keep on exploring until finding a new location for our empire, then build some cities. At this point Apolyton could be abandoned by producing a settler so to make the palace jump and New Apolyton could be built at the same location, which is still valuable for a city.

agreed! this seems to be a sound strategy.