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they will? you seem to be the only person in favor of playing ahead. no one in the civ2 game has yet.
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ok, i'm making that poll.Comment
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(Or the Civ 3 one either, unless I've missed a thread, and I don't think I have.)Originally posted by civman2000
they will? you seem to be the only person in favor of playing ahead. no one in the civ2 game has yet.Comment
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hi ,Originally posted by civman2000
ok, i'm making that poll.
there is no point in making pole's that only have certain Q's , .....
the main think is what this thread is about , ...and the first post say's it all , and why should we not include it , ...
have a nice day- RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
- LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
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hi ,Originally posted by civman2000
they will? you seem to be the only person in favor of playing ahead. no one in the civ2 game has yet.
ones again , playing ahead for them self's , ...and what is wrong with that , .........nothing
have a nice day- RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
- LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
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now you're making no sense at all. The first post of this thread makes absolutely no mention to playing ahead and i dont see how someone could think it did.Originally posted by panag
hi ,
there is no point in making pole's that only have certain Q's , .....
the main think is what this thread is about , ...and the first post say's it all , and why should we not include it , ...
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I don't see how afterwards is relevant. This is the problem with having two polls on the same subject. The first one goes one way, so the second is created to overrule it. This is not how it should be.Originally posted by Trip
And a poll here created afterwards in regards to the poll you posted made it so that there will be a Reporter, and the save file won't be released. 60% to 40%, you can't argue with numbers.
The question was phrased exactly that, was clear and concise, and more people voted to hold the save than to release it."I used to be a Scotialist, and spent a brief period as a Royalist, but now I'm PC"
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hi ,Originally posted by civman2000
now you're making no sense at all. The first post of this thread makes absolutely no mention to playing ahead and i dont see how someone could think it did.
well , we should try to stay on topic , ...
playing ahead for the office is a must , otherwise there is no point in having "strategic planning" , that is what its all about , both in real live and in a game , ...
strategic planning is thinking ahead , ....
have a nice day- RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
- LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
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so in real life, military stragic planning is all about going forward in time to see what different decisions will result in
. Please show me which parts of the first post seem to imply playing ahead.
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Also, the second poll was awkwardly worded. There was no mention in the post that the hold would be withheld, "Okay, I came up with an idea for those of you who say that if we restrict access to the savegame file, then we can create a 'Reporter' office. He would explain and lay out the current situation in as much detail as possible, without overlapping his job with other's task to report information." As far as I'm concerned, this poll only mandates the creation of a reporter, not the restriction of the savefile. I realize that the poll question mentions restricting of the save, but this is awkwardly worded too. Many may have simply read the post (which does not explain the entire poll) and voted based on that. I believe the poll to be void."I used to be a Scotialist, and spent a brief period as a Royalist, but now I'm PC"
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hi ,Originally posted by civman2000
so in real life, military stragic planning is all about going forward in time to see what different decisions will result in. Please show me which parts of the first post seem to imply playing ahead.
the concept of "strategic planning" , .....is about thinking , what happend in the past , what did we learned , what is happening now , what shall happen in the future , ....
have a nice day- RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
- LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?Comment
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The second was made as an alternative to what occured in the first, not as an attempt to overrule the first. If it was meant to overrule, then it would have had the same options, and should have the same results. The same majority that voted 'yes we should have it' in the first poll can vote for 'yes we should have it' in the second. I believe in fairness in the polling. Just as I had that poll, you could create another poll that asks "should we get rid of the Reporters so we can have the save file back", and if it people said 'yes', then they would have access again. That's how things work. I just offered an alternative to appease some of those who feel that if they didn't have access to the game, it would be a more detached and less entertaining experience. However, if you've seen Sir's newspaper thread, then I can assure you that will not be the case. In fact, it will probably make things more interesting than anything it could have been.Originally posted by punkbass2000
I don't see how afterwards is relevant. This is the problem with having two polls on the same subject. The first one goes one way, so the second is created to overrule it. This is not how it should be.
Another thing, what is awkward about "Do you support the creation of a 'Reporter' in exchage for witholding of the .SAV?" That is as clear as one can get, and that's enough information to clearly inform someone of what they're voting for. The poll is always in regard to the question being asked, not the issue being addressed in the post. That's why they give you the option to have a question... that's what it's for. I don't see what you're complaining about, the poll was completely fair.Comment
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Maybe it's just me, but I don't think that thinking about the past and what we've learned and what may happen in the future involves playing the game ahead.Originally posted by panag
the concept of "strategic planning" , .....is about thinking , what happend in the past , what did we learned , what is happening now , what shall happen in the future , ....
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hi ,Originally posted by Trip
Maybe it's just me, but I don't think that thinking about the past and what we've learned and what may happen in the future involves playing the game ahead.
please read again , its what in real live the concept is , ...
and it can be put in the game , .....;
have a nice day- RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
- LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?Comment
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If the second poll does not overrule the first, then why are you claiming that it does? If the first poll is not overruled then it must be followed and the savefile must be openly distributed. What I am complaining about is the fact that the poll was not cleearly explained in the post. The post must explain the poll in its entirety or else the citizens may not know what exactly they are voting for. I believe the question to be awkward because of the second part, "in exchage for witholding of the SAV." This, to me, is unclear. We only get the reporter if the save is withheld? The reporter gets to distribute the save? The save is held by only the reporter? The reporter gives up the save in exchange for being reporter? The questions are endless. The first poll was straight forward, and was voted in favour of allowing the save to be viewed by all. There was no need for a followup poll. This poll would have only been necessary if we had voted to restrict the save. The reporter is only needed if we cannot see the save.Originally posted by Trip
The second was made as an alternative to what occured in the first, not as an attempt to overrule the first. If it was meant to overrule, then it would have had the same options, and should have the same results. The same majority that voted 'yes we should have it' in the first poll can vote for 'yes we should have it' in the second. I believe in fairness in the polling. Just as I had that poll, you could create another poll that asks "should we get rid of the Reporters so we can have the save file back", and if it people said 'yes', then they would have access again. That's how things work. I just offered an alternative to appease some of those who feel that if they didn't have access to the game, it would be a more detached and less entertaining experience. However, if you've seen Sir's newspaper thread, then I can assure you that will not be the case. In fact, it will probably make things more interesting than anything it could have been.
Another thing, what is awkward about "Do you support the creation of a 'Reporter' in exchage for witholding of the .SAV?" That is as clear as one can get, and that's enough information to clearly inform someone of what they're voting for. The poll is always in regard to the question being asked, not the issue being addressed in the post. That's why they give you the option to have a question... that's what it's for. I don't see what you're complaining about, the poll was completely fair."I used to be a Scotialist, and spent a brief period as a Royalist, but now I'm PC"
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