heres a copy + paste of a chat i've just had.
please shair any veiws you have on the topics descust!
18:41:32 Ninot enters this room
18:41:41 [Ninot] hello
18:41:52 [HazieDaVampire] hello
18:41:56 [Ninot] whats up?
18:42:17 [HazieDaVampire] i'm waiting for Uber whats his namey
18:42:31 [Ninot] UberKrux?
18:42:50 [HazieDaVampire] yeah
18:43:01 [HazieDaVampire] talk about the Diplomatic games
18:43:33 [Ninot] yup... i can't wait for the game to actually get going... too bad its gonna take forever to set up propperly
18:43:56 [HazieDaVampire] i know how to vote for it!
18:44:21 ADG enters this room
18:44:31 [HazieDaVampire] to make sure nobody is voting for their own party in an election
18:45:00 [HazieDaVampire] we get a universal observer, and every sends an e-mail to them with their vote, and they tot it up!
18:45:10 [HazieDaVampire] everybody*
18:45:30 [Ninot] what do ya mean?
18:45:34 [ADG] Does anyone know when the game is set to begin?
18:45:41 [Ninot] you want to eliminate voting for a party/
18:45:54 [Ninot] not for a while im guessing, ADG
18:46:20 [HazieDaVampire] if we have partys, they won't be able to vote for their own party, cuz that'd just be unfair. So we need a way to regulate that nobody is voting for their own party
18:47:03 [Ninot] yeah.. but in real politics, George W Bush voted for George W bush.. and so did **** Cheyney..
18:47:12 [Ninot] nothing wrong with voting for your own part
18:47:16 [Ninot] party
18:47:40 [HazieDaVampire] ah, but thats cuz the hole nation is voting for them, this will be politions voting for polititions
18:47:49 [Ninot] just we need to make sure there is enough sway in the public so that not everyone is in a party
18:47:50 [HazieDaVampire] you see?
18:48:22 [Ninot] i see what you mean, but stopping people from voting for who they agree with (thus the same party) is outrageous
18:48:50 [Ninot] if i happen to be in the same party as the guy i want to vote for.. why shouldn't I?
18:48:59 [HazieDaVampire] But that justs means the largest party will instantly win
18:49:27 [Ninot] perhaps... but the way i believe your idea would be is even worse, it would guarantee the ruling party never holds power
18:49:32 [HazieDaVampire] but i suppose the largest part will be the largest cuz every agrees with them
18:49:44 [Ninot] yeah
18:50:07 zulu9812 enters this room
18:50:24 [Ninot] hiya Zulu
18:50:31 [HazieDaVampire] we cant, unde any curcumstances, have a facist party, cuz people will just get upset and pissed at people
18:50:44 [Ninot] no.. Fascism would never happen
18:50:53 [Ninot] i agree there
18:50:55 [HazieDaVampire] whsy Uber not coming?
18:51:03 [zulu9812] boo
18:51:26 [HazieDaVampire] lol
18:51:26 [Ninot] well, from the looks of the forums, it seems there will be quite a few people who refuse to join parties.. i dont think this "problem" will be very bad
18:51:49 [zulu9812] what we talking about? the democracy game?
18:52:15 [HazieDaVampire] people will of course have always have an alliegence with a party
18:52:44 [Ninot] yup zulu, demo game
18:52:44 [HazieDaVampire] slightly
18:52:59 [HazieDaVampire] WHERE TF is Uber
18:53:07 [Ninot] well, perhaps Hazie.. but there will be people who, regardless of party, vote who they think will do the best
18:53:36 [zulu9812] that's very noble of you, ninot!
18:53:47 [HazieDaVampire] lol, yeah
18:54:26 [Ninot] honestly, i have no clue what kind of party i might be in.
18:54:32 [HazieDaVampire] thats a sign of curruption, isn't it. People voting just to make the most popular party even more powerful
18:54:41 [Ninot] i like warmongering..
18:54:47 [HazieDaVampire] not because they actualy agree with them
18:54:56 [Ninot] huh?
18:55:00 [zulu9812] does anyone think civ should have a future era, or should it be solely about history?
18:55:09 [HazieDaVampire] never mind
18:55:14 [zulu9812] just a thought
18:55:21 [Ninot] uhhh.. i dunno zulu, cuz who knows what the future will be like/
18:55:26 [HazieDaVampire] a near future, i've always been with that
18:55:39 [ADG] I like the idea about a future era
18:55:39 [Ninot] sorry Hazie, i just am lacking something... what is the "sign of corruption"
18:55:51 [zulu9812] a chance to show a bit of imagination!
18:55:55 [ADG] But only near future
18:56:36 [HazieDaVampire] people voting for a party, not because they agree with them, but to simply propell a winning party to even greater hights
18:57:20 [Ninot] yeah.. but why would anyone do that? if they disagree strongly, they wouldn't dare do that
18:57:37 [HazieDaVampire] if they disagree strongly, yes
18:57:45 [Ninot] the undecided betweeners might vote for the strong party in power.. but only if theya re doing well
18:58:25 [HazieDaVampire] the follow the leader effect
18:58:54 [Ninot] yeah.. but no one follows the leader over a cliff
18:59:15 [HazieDaVampire] of course
19:00:13 [HazieDaVampire] once multiplayer is working, we can have a two nation demo game! hehe
19:00:25 [Ninot] that would be very interesting
19:00:39 [Ninot] if we had enough people of course
19:01:01 [Ninot] password protected forums, so one nation doesnt spy on the other
19:01:52 [HazieDaVampire] i think the demo games gunna be more like a republic
19:02:11 [HazieDaVampire] the British government is a republic really
19:02:27 [Ninot] a republic eh? no, i think it would be closer to a full democracy, cuz we arent gonna be millions, so everyones voice might just be heard
19:02:35 [HazieDaVampire] brb
19:02:58 [HazieDaVampire] in a democracy, everbodys voice isn't heard anyway
19:03:19 [Ninot] well... in a very true democracy, yes, everyone is heard
19:03:49 [Ninot] that is the theory of democracy.. that everyone decides as a group..
19:04:08 [Ninot] its under republics that the representatives decide, and they represent the public
19:04:58 [Ninot] but... we wont have true senators or members of the house, that will just be our little voting group... and they are just representing themselves, thus, democracy
19:05:37 ADG exits from this room
19:05:57 [Ninot] man, i wish these counted as posts
19:07:04 [HazieDaVampire] copy and paste them
19:07:15 [Ninot] muwahahaha
19:08:28 [HazieDaVampire] tasks, like, firing a nuke should be a complicated process
19:08:58 [HazieDaVampire] agree?
19:09:19 [HazieDaVampire] we really should get out own chat room, and call it, the Houses of parliment!
19:09:25 [HazieDaVampire] our*
19:09:59 [HazieDaVampire] i need feeback
19:10:14 [Ninot] uhhh..
19:10:32 [Ninot] well, the process we have for firing a nuke would be less than realistic, but yeah, very detailed
19:11:39 [Ninot] but wont we be using chat rooms often anyways?
19:11:51 [HazieDaVampire] We'd need a ever lasting thread, where the president, has to post howmeny nukes he will fire, and their designated targets. so we can say "you did say you wanted us to drop a nuke on Berlin!"
19:12:23 [HazieDaVampire] i don't mind setting up a filing system for things like that
19:13:10 [HazieDaVampire] so we can log what we've done
19:13:55 [HazieDaVampire] i can have things like, Where we droped a nuke, where and why we declared war, and great battles
19:14:23 [HazieDaVampire] we can log things like large troop movements! so should they be massicard, we know who's fault it was
19:14:32 [Ninot] heh
19:14:47 [Ninot] so a crisis/battle board?
19:15:03 [HazieDaVampire] pritty much, i'd like to be incharge of it
19:15:46 [Ninot] rofl
19:15:54 [HazieDaVampire] i'll work out small codes for things
19:16:06 [Ninot] im signed up as Foreign advisor candidate, woohoo
19:17:25 [Ninot] all i am hoping for is we dont get presidents who ignore advice from advisors, that would piss me off slightly
19:17:36 [HazieDaVampire] like we drop a tacticle nuke on Berlin in 1661, and its the first ever nuke we droped, it would be TN01, and i'll have a word file with all the full descriptions, and i'll post it ever so often as an update, so people can refer to it in that code
19:18:12 [Ninot] yeah, code and abbreviation will be needed
19:18:19 [Ninot] well, you could nominate yourself for Historian
19:18:43 [HazieDaVampire] so people can refer to it as "remember the TN01 situation!" instead of, "can you remember when we droped out first tacticle nuke on Berlin in 1661ad!"
please shair any veiws you have on the topics descust!
18:41:32 Ninot enters this room
18:41:41 [Ninot] hello
18:41:52 [HazieDaVampire] hello
18:41:56 [Ninot] whats up?
18:42:17 [HazieDaVampire] i'm waiting for Uber whats his namey
18:42:31 [Ninot] UberKrux?
18:42:50 [HazieDaVampire] yeah
18:43:01 [HazieDaVampire] talk about the Diplomatic games
18:43:33 [Ninot] yup... i can't wait for the game to actually get going... too bad its gonna take forever to set up propperly
18:43:56 [HazieDaVampire] i know how to vote for it!
18:44:21 ADG enters this room
18:44:31 [HazieDaVampire] to make sure nobody is voting for their own party in an election
18:45:00 [HazieDaVampire] we get a universal observer, and every sends an e-mail to them with their vote, and they tot it up!
18:45:10 [HazieDaVampire] everybody*
18:45:30 [Ninot] what do ya mean?
18:45:34 [ADG] Does anyone know when the game is set to begin?
18:45:41 [Ninot] you want to eliminate voting for a party/
18:45:54 [Ninot] not for a while im guessing, ADG
18:46:20 [HazieDaVampire] if we have partys, they won't be able to vote for their own party, cuz that'd just be unfair. So we need a way to regulate that nobody is voting for their own party
18:47:03 [Ninot] yeah.. but in real politics, George W Bush voted for George W bush.. and so did **** Cheyney..
18:47:12 [Ninot] nothing wrong with voting for your own part
18:47:16 [Ninot] party
18:47:40 [HazieDaVampire] ah, but thats cuz the hole nation is voting for them, this will be politions voting for polititions
18:47:49 [Ninot] just we need to make sure there is enough sway in the public so that not everyone is in a party
18:47:50 [HazieDaVampire] you see?
18:48:22 [Ninot] i see what you mean, but stopping people from voting for who they agree with (thus the same party) is outrageous
18:48:50 [Ninot] if i happen to be in the same party as the guy i want to vote for.. why shouldn't I?
18:48:59 [HazieDaVampire] But that justs means the largest party will instantly win
18:49:27 [Ninot] perhaps... but the way i believe your idea would be is even worse, it would guarantee the ruling party never holds power
18:49:32 [HazieDaVampire] but i suppose the largest part will be the largest cuz every agrees with them
18:49:44 [Ninot] yeah
18:50:07 zulu9812 enters this room
18:50:24 [Ninot] hiya Zulu
18:50:31 [HazieDaVampire] we cant, unde any curcumstances, have a facist party, cuz people will just get upset and pissed at people
18:50:44 [Ninot] no.. Fascism would never happen
18:50:53 [Ninot] i agree there
18:50:55 [HazieDaVampire] whsy Uber not coming?
18:51:03 [zulu9812] boo
18:51:26 [HazieDaVampire] lol
18:51:26 [Ninot] well, from the looks of the forums, it seems there will be quite a few people who refuse to join parties.. i dont think this "problem" will be very bad
18:51:49 [zulu9812] what we talking about? the democracy game?
18:52:15 [HazieDaVampire] people will of course have always have an alliegence with a party
18:52:44 [Ninot] yup zulu, demo game
18:52:44 [HazieDaVampire] slightly
18:52:59 [HazieDaVampire] WHERE TF is Uber
18:53:07 [Ninot] well, perhaps Hazie.. but there will be people who, regardless of party, vote who they think will do the best
18:53:36 [zulu9812] that's very noble of you, ninot!
18:53:47 [HazieDaVampire] lol, yeah
18:54:26 [Ninot] honestly, i have no clue what kind of party i might be in.
18:54:32 [HazieDaVampire] thats a sign of curruption, isn't it. People voting just to make the most popular party even more powerful
18:54:41 [Ninot] i like warmongering..
18:54:47 [HazieDaVampire] not because they actualy agree with them
18:54:56 [Ninot] huh?
18:55:00 [zulu9812] does anyone think civ should have a future era, or should it be solely about history?
18:55:09 [HazieDaVampire] never mind
18:55:14 [zulu9812] just a thought
18:55:21 [Ninot] uhhh.. i dunno zulu, cuz who knows what the future will be like/
18:55:26 [HazieDaVampire] a near future, i've always been with that
18:55:39 [ADG] I like the idea about a future era
18:55:39 [Ninot] sorry Hazie, i just am lacking something... what is the "sign of corruption"
18:55:51 [zulu9812] a chance to show a bit of imagination!
18:55:55 [ADG] But only near future
18:56:36 [HazieDaVampire] people voting for a party, not because they agree with them, but to simply propell a winning party to even greater hights
18:57:20 [Ninot] yeah.. but why would anyone do that? if they disagree strongly, they wouldn't dare do that
18:57:37 [HazieDaVampire] if they disagree strongly, yes
18:57:45 [Ninot] the undecided betweeners might vote for the strong party in power.. but only if theya re doing well
18:58:25 [HazieDaVampire] the follow the leader effect
18:58:54 [Ninot] yeah.. but no one follows the leader over a cliff
18:59:15 [HazieDaVampire] of course
19:00:13 [HazieDaVampire] once multiplayer is working, we can have a two nation demo game! hehe
19:00:25 [Ninot] that would be very interesting
19:00:39 [Ninot] if we had enough people of course
19:01:01 [Ninot] password protected forums, so one nation doesnt spy on the other
19:01:52 [HazieDaVampire] i think the demo games gunna be more like a republic
19:02:11 [HazieDaVampire] the British government is a republic really
19:02:27 [Ninot] a republic eh? no, i think it would be closer to a full democracy, cuz we arent gonna be millions, so everyones voice might just be heard
19:02:35 [HazieDaVampire] brb
19:02:58 [HazieDaVampire] in a democracy, everbodys voice isn't heard anyway
19:03:19 [Ninot] well... in a very true democracy, yes, everyone is heard
19:03:49 [Ninot] that is the theory of democracy.. that everyone decides as a group..
19:04:08 [Ninot] its under republics that the representatives decide, and they represent the public
19:04:58 [Ninot] but... we wont have true senators or members of the house, that will just be our little voting group... and they are just representing themselves, thus, democracy
19:05:37 ADG exits from this room
19:05:57 [Ninot] man, i wish these counted as posts
19:07:04 [HazieDaVampire] copy and paste them
19:07:15 [Ninot] muwahahaha
19:08:28 [HazieDaVampire] tasks, like, firing a nuke should be a complicated process
19:08:58 [HazieDaVampire] agree?
19:09:19 [HazieDaVampire] we really should get out own chat room, and call it, the Houses of parliment!
19:09:25 [HazieDaVampire] our*
19:09:59 [HazieDaVampire] i need feeback
19:10:14 [Ninot] uhhh..
19:10:32 [Ninot] well, the process we have for firing a nuke would be less than realistic, but yeah, very detailed
19:11:39 [Ninot] but wont we be using chat rooms often anyways?
19:11:51 [HazieDaVampire] We'd need a ever lasting thread, where the president, has to post howmeny nukes he will fire, and their designated targets. so we can say "you did say you wanted us to drop a nuke on Berlin!"
19:12:23 [HazieDaVampire] i don't mind setting up a filing system for things like that
19:13:10 [HazieDaVampire] so we can log what we've done
19:13:55 [HazieDaVampire] i can have things like, Where we droped a nuke, where and why we declared war, and great battles
19:14:23 [HazieDaVampire] we can log things like large troop movements! so should they be massicard, we know who's fault it was
19:14:32 [Ninot] heh
19:14:47 [Ninot] so a crisis/battle board?
19:15:03 [HazieDaVampire] pritty much, i'd like to be incharge of it
19:15:46 [Ninot] rofl
19:15:54 [HazieDaVampire] i'll work out small codes for things
19:16:06 [Ninot] im signed up as Foreign advisor candidate, woohoo
19:17:25 [Ninot] all i am hoping for is we dont get presidents who ignore advice from advisors, that would piss me off slightly
19:17:36 [HazieDaVampire] like we drop a tacticle nuke on Berlin in 1661, and its the first ever nuke we droped, it would be TN01, and i'll have a word file with all the full descriptions, and i'll post it ever so often as an update, so people can refer to it in that code
19:18:12 [Ninot] yeah, code and abbreviation will be needed
19:18:19 [Ninot] well, you could nominate yourself for Historian
19:18:43 [HazieDaVampire] so people can refer to it as "remember the TN01 situation!" instead of, "can you remember when we droped out first tacticle nuke on Berlin in 1661ad!"
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