Age of Discovery Democracy Game

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

OK, updated the member list in the first post.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

OK following options. Post your feelings and I will tally the results.

1) No war in Europe. Period.
2) No war in Europe between human Players, but you can attack AI civs.
3) No war in Europe until we finish researching the first Era of researchible techs, thus we would have a period to establish colonies and defenses before war was allowed.

[joncnunn]

My problem with #1 is possibily of AI declaring war on us which will result in AI attempting to cross the border in both Europe and elsewhere to attack us which would violate the rules. Also anyone declaring war with a European AI over colonies in the new world would get a European land war because of AI behavior as well.

Spanish Civ is mostly likely to have this problem, given that the Protogeuese are initally much stronger than the Dutch because of their starting in a GA combined with the Dutch UU being defensive.

#2 seems to open a blank check for Spain and France to evenually enlarge their European holdings around midway thru the first era if the AI doesn't build enough units in Europe. France would be a stronger benificary again because the Protegese start stronger than the Dutch.

#3 We all start in the 3rd era except for the Natives, so I think you mean entering the 4th era. Is this all human players are just the one that wants to initate the european land war?

[Beta]

Originally posted by GhengisFarb

That just comes with being a hair obsessed monkey.

Nature did NOT intend for Monkeys to use hairstylists and mousse.

Your avatar looks like the Fabio of monkeys.
"I con't bulieve it's not Banana!"

Beta the Macaque pukes up his lunch in his hand and picks though the good pieces - all the while completely disregarding the comments from the peanut gallery - although peanuts would be more than welcome.

(And btw - no mousse - I'm a naturally good looking simian. )

[Beta]

Hmmm.. I still like no war at all in Europe - but I see the quandry. And jon has laid out the issues with #2 and #3 quite well.

Do we want 5 human teams for the Europeans - the only problem being of course that two are much weaker. But then the greater challenge as well. And it would slow the game down.

A full 8 teams would be a hoot - with no wars in Europe - but I think that expands the game more than GF originally envisioned.

I say 5 teams - all European with AI's for the new world teams - or a full slate of 8 teams. With a bit of recruitment we can get it done. We only need 3 or 4 players per team.

[Darekill]

How about changing sides complete and defeat as Native tribes the eropean AI.
Three Teams playing as Inka, Iroquis und Maya.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

But I want to be able to build Privateers and loot Beta's stuff.

[joncnunn]

Darekill, that wouldn't be a challenge at all.

In fact if the game had about 50% more turns and the natives refrained from building the wonders, I would beat on a colition of human played natives conquering large sections of Europe.

[Darekill]

I did not say, that the natives would have to play peacefully together. They could fight each other too so that would make some differende don't you think?

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Considering how few people we have we could also assign old world cities to them, say one of the British members could be the Duke of York and what not. I don't necessarily see why we would need all the Euro civs to be teams, that way I see it the fewer teams the faster the game.

[Paddy]

This sounds an interesting approach

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Wow, this idea died quick.

[Paddy]

still lurking

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by GhengisFarb
Well, conmcb25 was the only one besides me who supported no war in Europe and since he's not posting any desire to join I guess we won't worry about that rule.

Well thats good because I was wondering if I should do this or not due to lack of time. But ALLOWING war in Europe is the straw that breaks the back for me.

Its just to easy to get an earliy advantage by attacking a weak Euro Civ at hime.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

How about we just decide on settings and play a Feudal/Minigame Democracy game the old fashioned way with everyone bidding and owning tiles?

I would be up for starting and playing through the first turns in a turnchat this weekend. Anyone else up for it?