Adopt the NewCon?

[Kloreep]

The consensus in this thread seems to be that we should use the NewCon and simply change it with amendments over time, rather than trying to write a new one right away. Sounds good to me, but I figured we should put it to a poll.

The NewCon can be found here. Poll lasts 7 days.

We can call this "The Compromise of 3500 BC"

[Inverse Icarus]

bring on the NeoNewCon

[Togas]

To be blunt, if people want a NeoNewCon so bad, they should sit down and draft one and propose it.

Until then, keep the current one and amend it as we get good ideas for changes.

--Togas

[Aro]

keep the NewCon, wth some adjustments, maybe.

[Octavian X]

I'd just keep it since it works. However, improvements are needed, especially in readability. Maybe, this weekend, I could change the look of it a bit...

Keep the thing for now, and slowly amend as needed.

[Panag]

hi ,

, we should simply rewrite it from the start , after so many add-ons its sometimes hard to figure out what the law in question was , .....

have a nice day

[MrWhereItsAt]

Keep it, unless it comes into effect before my term is up. I am NOT dealing with that thing 'till I fully understand it and all its demands.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Togas, you think we could hyper link all the sections to make it easier to quick reference a section, I think this would make it far easier for people to look up something they are trying to find.

[GodKing]

Keep it. For those who want to change it, do so, post it, and so forth.

[Togas]

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
Togas, you think we could hyper link all the sections to make it easier to quick reference a section, I think this would make it far easier for people to look up something they are trying to find.

Absolutely. And Octavian's idea about better organization is also a solid one. Both ideas have no effect on the actual law and are perfectly reasonable to do.

--Togas

[Aidun]

Either write a new one, or keep the NewCon - it is still a marvellous piece of work - but check it for errors. Example: according to the NewCon, Apolytonia was, in the former Demogame a Constitutional Monarchy.

Aidun

[Kloreep]

*bump*

[Octavian X]

As a note, I've already reformatted Article I of the constitution for easy reading. However, time constaints have prevented me from contacting the approiate persons for editting the constituional thread.

[Thud]

Huh? I thought that the poll itself indicated that we wanted to write a new constitution! Just because the majority of those who posted in that particular thread wanted to keep the NewCon doesn't mean the poll is wrong.

I can see even those that are voting for this wouldn't mind a new constitution, if it actually gets done. Fine. I thought we were going to have actual debate on this and not leave it up to another committee. Since that doesn't seem to be the case, I'll write a Constitution, and submit it for your approval.

[Thud]

Absolutism Lite

Okay, I've written a new Constitution, based on the Tory party platform. Pretty brief, but it really doesn't need to be any more complicated. Of course, I welcome suggestions and additions!


Article I: Royalty

The King:
a) The King is the Justice of the Realm, The King has the power to rule upon contested disputes involving legal interpretations; validity of polls and elections; violations of the Constitution, law, or Executive orders; and any other dispute of national importance.
i) The King shall come together to rule on any issue that is lawfully before Him.
ii) The King cannot act on any issue until a noble brings forth an Petition. Petitions to the King should be posted publicly.
iii) The King shall decide on His own what type of hearing it will have. He may make His own rules of procedure and enforce them upon citizens who are before the Him.
iv)The King shall keep a record of all disputes, issues, and hearings. The King shall also keep a public record of the Constitution in its most current form, listing all amendments and prior laws. The King may appoint a Clerk keep these records.
b) The King is first elected by the nobles for a three-month term, and is elected every three months thereafter.
c) The King is in charge of all workers and settlers, and determines the placement of new cities.
d) The King may rush any project in any manner, except using a Great Leader.
e) The King determines the usage of the Royal Coffers, whether to the treasury, to luxuries, or to advancement.
f) The King determines the direction of scientific inquiry.
g) The King plays the game, if the Premier is not available, and must follow the instructions of the Parliament, Ministers, and Premier while playing the game unless the instruction is clearly erroneous, or made impossible and/or harmful by changed circumstances.
h) The King may override the decision of the Premier to resolve a Parliamentary vote, and may himself close a Parliamentary vote, if the Premier does not do so, at any time after 72 hours has elapsed.
i) The King delineates Shires and Lordships.
j) The King may appoint Deputies.

The Premier:
a) The Premier runs the Realm in the name of the King, and plays the game.
b) The Premier is the primary legislative head. Any tie is broken by his vote, and he declares the voting resolved and closed at whatever time he sees fit.
c) When playing the game, the Premier must follow the instructions of the Parliament, Ministers, and Premier while playing the game unless the instruction is clearly erroneous, or made impossible and/or harmful by changed circumstances.
d) The Premier is elected to one month terms by the Parliament.

Royal Minister for Foreign Affairs:
a) The Foreign Affairs Minister has sole power over exchanges and trade agreements with other nations, including the formation of embassies and espionage.
b) The Foreign Affairs Minister may enter into Right of Passage Agreements, but only after the approval of either the Parliament or the Royal Military Commander.
c) The Foreign Affairs Minister negotiates peace agreements, but only after the approval of either the Parliament or Royal Military Commander.
d) The Foreign Affairs Minister is elected to one month terms by the Parliament.

Royal Military Commander:
(a) The Royal Military Commander controls all units except settlers and workers.
(b) The Royal Military Commander controls only the movement of Great Leaders, however he or she shall move the Great Leader to the city of choosing of the Senate when instructed to do so.
(c) The Royal Military Commander may disband units under his or her control. A Great Leader may never be disbanded.
(d) The Royal Military Commander is elected to one month terms by the Parliament.


Article II: The Nobility and the Parliament

Rights and Responsibilities of the Nobility:
a) any person with the ability to write is considered a part of the nobility
b) any noble that is not currently a member of the the Royalty is considered a member of the Parliament
c) Any Member of Parliament (MP) has the ability to start Parliamentary votes, which must be clear, unbiased, states the proposed law in its entirety, and gives three options: “yea”, “nay”, and “abstain”.
d) These votes must start with the heading "Parliament"
e) To pass, the vote must have more "yeas" than "nays". Any tie is broken by the Premier(his vote is cast twice). The Premier or King declares the vote resolved, there is no time limit or quorum that they do not determine.
f) The Parliament has the power to declare war.
g) The Parliament has the power to set Mobilization level to “War-Time”.
h) The Parliament has the power to change the form of the government.
i) The Parliament has the power to decide how Great Leaders are used
j) The Parliament may make its own laws regarding Senate procedure.

Rights and Responsibilities of Lords:
a) Lords are elected by the Parliament to hold dominion over a shire or city.
b) Lords are responsible for city queues and worker distributions.

Amendments:
a) Amendments to this Constitution are a special case of Parliamentary vote. An amendment is passed and made official when 2/3rds or more of the citizens who vote approve of the change to the Constitution.

Elections:
a) The Parliament elects all elected positions, as detailed in those positions, and has the authority to require the Premier, King, Ministers, or Lords to step down at any time via the regular voting process.
b) Elections shall begin on the 12th of every month. The current Premier will ensure the smooth running of polling and any run-offs.
c) Elections shall end 72 hours later on the 15th of every month.
d) All candidates for office must publicly express their candidacy before elections begin.
e) No one may be a candidate for more than one elected office.
f) If no candidate for office receives more than 50% of the vote, there shall be a run-off election held from the 15th to the 18th.