Extra Pack, Existing Civs, part5: Russia, Japan, France

[Selanne]

Qick Japanese Great Leader list:

Himiko
Shotoku
Minamoto Yoritomo
Oda Nobunaga
Daigo II
Hideyoshi Toyotomi
Saigo Takamori
Heihachiro Togo
Hideki Tojo
Hirohito

[Wernazuma III]

Thanks Selanne, I've changed the japanese list!

[Maollelujah]

Qick Japanese Great Leader list:

Himiko
Shotoku
Minamoto Yoritomo
Oda Nobunaga
Daigo II
Hideyoshi Toyotomi
Saigo Takamori
Heihachiro Togo
Hideki Tojo
Hirohito

Himiko: Beimihu is the real name of the ancient queen who ruled Waguo.

Also some of the names in the above list have the last name first and others have given names first.

Beimihu
Shotoku Taishi
Nakatomi no Kamatari
Taira Kiyomori
Minamoto Yoritomo
Ashikaga Takauji
Kusunoki Masahige
Oda Nobunaga
Toyotomi Hideyoshi
Tokugawa Ieyasu
Takasugi Shinsaku
Sakamoto Ryoma
Togo Heihachiro
Yamamoto Isoruku

[Serb]

Re: Extra Pack, Existing Civs, part5: Russia, Japan, France

Originally posted by Wernazuma III
Russia:
Cities:
Borodino

It's not a city, but a small village near Moscow famous for Borodino battle of 1812. Since that time Moscow grow a little and place where HQ of Russian army was located during this battle in 1812 is one of the station of Moscow's subway today. So, I guess it's not neccesary to include it.

Omsk

It's nice to see name of my home city in your list.

Ekaterinburg... Sverdlovsk

It's the same city. Ekaterinburg is original name. It was renamed during soviet times and today it's Ekaterinburg again.

Kuibyshev

The same as "Samara". Original name Samara, it was renamed to Kuibyshev by communists, but today it's Samara again.

Sachalinsk

I guess it should be "Sakhalinsk". "kh" like "H" in english words 'horse', 'home'.

Khabarovsk ... Chabaraovsk

It's the same city, but with different spelling of this "H" letter It should be Khabarovsk.

Pensa

I guess "Penza" is more accurate.

Djnepropetrovsk

It should be- Dnepropetrovsk

Kaliningrad

It's former Kenigsberg. So it could be problem, because Germans have such city in their list of city names.

Novokusnjetsk

I guess Novokuznetsk is more accurate.

Sachalinsk

Sakhalinsk

Saporoshje

It's not actually a city, but name for territory, like Siberia for example.

Komsomolsk

I guess it should be "Komsomolsk na Amure". Long name, isn't it?

Barnaul

I don't know, perhaps Barrnaul. "R" has sound too, like in words "red", "rose"

I guess there should be such old cities as Bryansk, and Smolensk. And perhaps Kerrch and Sochi.

The rest of your list is OK.

Leaders:
Volodymyr
Trotsky
Stalin
Lenin
Kruschev
Ivan the Terrible
Ivan III
Peter the Great
Bagration
Brusilov
Tuchachevski
Shukov
Konev

Vladimir, not Volodymyr
I also offer: Alexander Nevsky -kicked Swedish knights in 1240 and German knights in 1242. The legendary prince of Novgorod.
Dmitry Donskoy- kicked Mongols in 1380. A legendary character for us too.
Yuri Dolgorooky- considered as founder of Moscow. First mention about Moscow in documents was in 1147 IIRC. Pretty famous person too.
Trotsky could be removed as well as Khrushev IMHO.
The rest of the list is OK except, Zhukov is more accurate spelling.
But also this list should contain such names as: Alexander Suvorov- the most famous Russian feildmarshal, famous for his campaign in Italy and wars vs. Turkey at the end of XVIII century. He didn't lost a single battle.
Mikhail Kutuzov- (Mikhail is Russian version of Mike or Michele). Legendary feild marshal who lead Russian forces in war vs. Napoleon.

If you need more leaders I could give you a dozen of names. The guys in your list are the most famous leaders, so it's ok.

[Serb]

Almost forget.
The original name of "Gorky" is "Nizhny Novgorod" it was renamed durring soviet era, but today it's "Nizhny Novgorod" again.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Schee
[edit] But its region is always called Leningrad. Strange, isn't it ? no ? [/edit]

No

We are mysterious people. This city is called Sankt Peterburg today, but its nearby territories- "gubernia" (province) called "Leningadskaya oblast" (Leningrad's district). Anyhow, most of the people still call Sankt Peterburg as "Leningrad" or shorter version- "Piter".
Why it's so strange? It's so simple.

[Wernazuma III]

Interesting. I expected much, but never an Omskan posting here! Nice to see you, Serb! I'll change my russian lists later today!

[Myrddin]

Dnepropetrovsk

wins my vote for the most unpronounacable city name

Also it is in Ukraine - but is probably Russian enough for Civ

[Wernazuma III]

Dnepr Dneprpetrovsk, the name of the football team is even better...

[Serb]

Dnepr- it's the name of river on which this city is founded. Peter- its a name. "Dnepro_petr_ovsk" means a Peter's city on Dnepr river.

Wernazuma III,
I'm spaming here since last year, in OT mostly and btw, the citizen of Omsk is called "Omich"
And I'm glad to see you to.

[Wernazuma III]

Omich, one never learns out

And obviously you're not only spaming, as your helpful post shows

[Serb]

Thank you. I'm glad if my post was helpful.