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  • Expansion Pack: Cities and Leaders, part3: What I still need.

    Russia (Leaders)
    Zulu (Leaders)
    Japan (Leaders)
    India (Leaders)


    Every Civ should have at least 50 cities and 5 leaders.
    Last edited by Wernazuma III; August 9, 2002, 16:22.
    "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
    "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

  • #2
    Chinese cities:

    Chang An (Xian)
    Luo Yang
    Jian Kang (Nanking)
    Bei Jing
    Kai Feng
    Hang Zhou
    Ye Cheng
    Xian Yang
    An Yang
    Cheng Du

    Xiang Yang
    Jiang Ling
    Nan Yang
    Gong Yang
    Chao Ge
    Ju Lu
    Han Dan
    Shang Dang
    Zheng Zhou
    Tai Yuan

    Wu Chang
    Chang Sha
    Xu Chang
    Zheng Zhou
    Han Zhong
    Tai Yuan
    Da Tong
    Tian Shui
    Shou Chun
    Su Zhou

    Yang Zhou
    Xu Zhou
    Ji Nan
    Zhen Ding
    Liao Yang
    Yu Men
    Guang Zhou
    Quan Zhou
    Kun Min
    Gui Yang

    Nan Ning
    Chong Qing
    Lan Zhou
    Wu Wei
    Yin Chuan
    Tian Jin
    Chang Chun
    Da Lian
    Qing Dao
    Shang Hai

    The first 10 cities had been capital cities of China or Chinese dynasties at various time. The last 10 cities are cities founded quite recently.

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    • #3
      Chinese Leaders: (titles in parenthesis)
      Ji Chang (Zhou Wu Wang)
      Sun Tzu
      Ying Zheng (Shi Huang Di)
      Liu Che (Han Wu Di)
      Wei Qing
      Cao Cao
      Zhuge Liang
      Li Shimin (Tang Tai Zong)
      Li Jin
      Zhao Kuangyin (Song Tai Zu)
      Yue Fei
      Zhu Yuangzhang (Ming Tai Zu)
      Xuan Ye (Emperor Kangxi)
      Sun Yat-Tsen
      Deng Xiaoping

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      • #4
        Russian Cities:
        Moskva
        St Petersburg
        Kiev
        Novgorod
        Smolensk
        Tsaritsyn/Volgograd/Stalingrad
        Minsk
        Pskov
        Vitebsk
        Mogilev

        Borodino
        Kharkov
        Kursk
        Belgorod
        Voronezh
        Djnepropetrovsk
        Saratov
        Samara
        Kazan
        Nizhny Novgorod/Gorky

        Tula
        Kaluga
        Vologda
        Astrakhan
        Tyumen
        Tobolsk
        Surgut
        Orsk
        Orenburg
        Omsk

        Novosibirsk
        Semipalatinsk
        Tomsk
        Krasnoyarsk
        Irkutsk
        Yakutsk
        Khabarovsk
        Vladivostok
        Petropavlovsk
        Archangelsk

        Murmansk
        Ekaterinburg
        Perm
        Ufa
        Karaganda
        Rostov
        Sevastopol
        Yaroslavl
        Odessa
        Kaliningrad

        Kaliningrad is kind murky because it's Koenigsberg, too.

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        • #5
          Thanks, I've changed the Chinese leaders and will do it for the Russians. As I've said, I already got chinese cities.

          Compare your list with mine, then suggest changes.Beijing
          Shanghai
          Kanton
          Nanking
          Hongkong
          Xian
          Tsingtao
          Xinjian
          Taipeh
          Chengdu
          Hangzhou
          Tientsin
          Tatung
          Macao
          Fushun
          Sian
          Anyang
          Shantung
          Taiyuan
          Mukden
          Kuangchuan
          Wuhan
          Yang
          Liaojang
          Chinan
          Lanzhou
          Kaifeng
          Kunming
          Kueilin
          Shengjang
          Changchun
          Anshan
          Ningsia
          Ningpo
          Paoting
          Tainan
          Yünnan
          Loyang
          Chiangling
          Suzhou
          Zhangjiakou
          Qingdao
          Taichung
          Wuxi
          Fuzhou
          Chiao
          Gejiu
          Wei
          Harbin
          Xuzhou
          Yangchow
          Luda
          Baotou
          Chongqing
          Kaohsiung
          Guiyang
          Xining
          Hohhot
          Yumen
          Haikou


          BTW, I've updated my homepage:


          Check out the BIC-file. It's crippled and not playable, but good to take a look into it.
          "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
          "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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          • #6
            Firaxis seems to have lots of trouble with Chinese city names. They used several province names, were quite inconsistent with pronounciations, and created many duplicates.

            Compare your list with mine, then suggest changes.
            Chang An: If you talk about the capital of the Chinese civilization, no other city will ever beat Chang An, which is what Xian was previously called.
            Luo Yang: This city is second in importance in Chinese history.
            Beijing - Bei Jing
            Shanghai - Shang Hai
            Kanton - Guang Zhou
            Nanking - I would call it Jian Kang, or its modern version Nan Jing.
            Hongkong - Hong Kong
            Xian - It's replaced by Chang An.
            Tsingtao - Qing Dao
            Xinjian - There is no such city or province in China
            Taipeh - OK
            Chengdu = Cheng Du
            Hangzhou - Hang Zhou
            Tientsin - Tian Jin
            Tatung - Da Tong
            Macao - Throw out this city, it has very little importance in China.
            Fushun - Fu Shun
            Sian - Sian is Xian is Chang An.
            Anyang - An Yang was the capital of the first dynasty in China
            Shantung - This is a province name.
            Taiyuan - Tai Yuan
            Mukden - It's Shen Yang. Mukden is probably used by the Japanese and would insult any Chinese gamer.
            Kuangchuan - There is no such city or province in China.
            Wuhan - I would use Wu Chang here.
            Yang - Yang Zhou
            Liaojang - Liao Yang
            Chinan - Ji Nan
            Lanzhou - Lan Zhou
            Kaifeng - Kai Feng. You may want to place it higher in the list as it's a stragetically important city in China.
            Kunming - Kun Min
            Kueilin - Gui Ling
            Shengjang - It's the same as Mukden and Shen Yang
            Changchun - Chang Chun
            Anshan - An Shan is hardly a major town in China.
            Ningsia - Again, a province name. Yin Chuan is the provincial capital.
            Ningpo - Ning Bo
            Paoting - Bao Ding
            Tainan - Tai Nan
            Yünnan - Maybe it means Yunnan, a province?
            Loyang - same as Luo Yang
            Chiangling - Jiang Ling
            Suzhou - Su Zhou
            Zhangjiakou - Zhang Jia Kou
            Qingdao - already listed
            Taichung - OK
            Wuxi - Wu Xi
            Fuzhou - Fu Zhou
            Chiao - Qiao is only a county, but birthplace of the GL Cao Cao.
            Gejiu - ????
            Wei - Ye Cheng
            Harbin - OK
            Xuzhou - Xu Zhou
            Yangchow - same as Yang Zhou
            Luda - Da Lian
            Baotou - OK
            Chongqing - Chong Qing
            Kaohsiung - Gao Xiong
            Guiyang - Gui Yang
            Xining - OK
            Hohhot - OK
            Yumen - OK
            Haikou - OK

            I would add the following more cities:
            Nan Yang
            Xu Chang
            Chao Ge
            Gong Yang
            Tian Shui
            Zhen Ding

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            • #7
              Here's a list of 10 Iroquois leaders

              Canaqueese (Mohawk) ca. 1630-?
              Garangula (Onondaga) ca. 1640-?
              Canassatego (Seneca) ?-1750
              King Hendrick (Mohawk) ?-1755
              Skenandoah (Oneida) 1706-1816
              Handsome Lake (Seneca) 1735-1815
              Cornplanter (Seneca) 1736-1836
              Joseph Brant (Mohawk) 1742-1807
              Sagoyewatha (Seneca) 1758-1830
              Ely Parker (Seneca) 1828-1895
              A horse! A horse! Mingapulco for a horse! Someone must give chase to Brave Sir Robin and get those missing flags ...
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              • #8
                I changed the leaders of the Iroquois.
                I'll change the chinese list later in the evening.
                "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                • #9
                  lord merciless: Is the seperate writing of the chinese names really much more accurate? I ask, because Beijing et al. are already so familiar.
                  "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                  "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                  • #10
                    Yes, because a Chinese city usually have 2 characters, and I think each of them should be represented by an English word.

                    But if you feel comfortable writing the other way, that's fine, too.

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                    • #11
                      Yes, I fell more comfortable
                      How comes that you know so much about Chinese history?

                      Anyway, here's the revised list:

                      Beijing
                      Changan
                      Loyang
                      Shanghai
                      Guangzhou
                      Jiankang
                      Hongkong
                      Tsingtao
                      Kaifeng
                      Taipeh
                      Chengdu
                      Hangzhou
                      Tientsin
                      Tatung
                      Fushun
                      Anyang
                      Taiyuan
                      Shenjang
                      Wuchang
                      Yangzhou
                      Liaojang
                      Jinan
                      Lanzhou
                      Kunmin
                      Guiling
                      Changchun
                      Ningbo
                      Baoding
                      Tainan
                      Jiangling
                      Suzhou
                      Zhangjiakou
                      Taichung
                      Wuxi
                      Fuzhou
                      Ye Chang
                      Harbin
                      Xuzhou
                      Dalian
                      Baotou
                      Chongqing
                      Kaohsiung
                      Guiyang
                      Xining
                      Hohhot
                      Yumen
                      Haikou
                      Nanyang
                      Xuchang
                      Chaoge
                      Gong yang
                      Tianshui
                      Zhending
                      "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                      "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                      • #12
                        Oh, I forgot to say: I let Beijing in first place, because it's already the most important city for quite some time (so it comes close to Chang An) and it's the more popularly known, I think people want to have something familiar as capital, so as long as it's no bull****, I tend to make it so.


                        Anyway, only a few things left (I did most tasks myself already).

                        However, we lack the Zulu cities. Only 16 in the original list! I can't find much, can you?
                        "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                        "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                        • #13
                          Volodymyr- ancient Russian leader... of Moscow.
                          and the regulars:
                          Leon Trotsky
                          Iosif Stalin
                          Lenin
                          Kruschev
                          Ivan the Terrible
                          Catherine the Great

                          -
                          The Zulu were tribespeople... they didn't build much in the way of cities... You could just include some of the English trade cities in the list, if you like, since they were in their territory
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                          • #14
                            More Russian GLs:
                            Ivan III
                            Peter the Great
                            Bagration
                            Brusilov
                            Tuchachevski
                            Shukov
                            Konev

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                            • #15
                              For India (by which we mean, presumably, leaders of civilizations originating/predominantly in the Indian sub-continent):

                              Akbar the Great

                              Indira Gandhi

                              Jawaharlal Nehru

                              Mohammad Ali Jinnah

                              The Rani of Jaipur

                              Tippu Sultan

                              Asoka

                              Kanishka

                              Chandragupta

                              Cities:

                              Harappa

                              Mohenjo-Daro

                              Sigirya

                              Bamiyan

                              Taxila

                              Delhi/New Delhi

                              Fatehpur Sikri

                              Karachi

                              Islamabad

                              Lahore

                              Amritsar

                              Kandy

                              Trincomalee

                              Anuradhapura

                              Calcutta

                              Bombay/Mumbai

                              Madras

                              Khajuraho

                              Cochin

                              Bangalore

                              Travancore

                              Hyderabad

                              Ahmedabad

                              Sarnath

                              Mamallapuram

                              Chandigarh

                              Srinagar

                              Darjeeling

                              Dhaka

                              Cox's Bazaar

                              Varanasi/Benares

                              Madura

                              Konarak

                              Goa

                              Lucknow

                              Puna/Poona

                              Rawalpindi

                              Simla

                              Jaipur

                              Jodhpur

                              Calicut

                              Pondicherry

                              Thimpu

                              Imphal

                              Cuttak

                              Patna

                              Allahabad

                              Agra

                              Jabalpur

                              Nagpur

                              Vishakhapatnam

                              Baroda

                              Quetta

                              Peshawar

                              Yanaon

                              That should be enough to be going on with, I think...
                              Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                              ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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