Expansion Pack: Cities and Leaders, part3: What I still need.

[Wernazuma III]

Russia (Leaders)
Zulu (Leaders)
Japan (Leaders)
India (Leaders)


Every Civ should have at least 50 cities and 5 leaders.

[Lord Merciless]

Chinese cities:

Chang An (Xian)
Luo Yang
Jian Kang (Nanking)
Bei Jing
Kai Feng
Hang Zhou
Ye Cheng
Xian Yang
An Yang
Cheng Du

Xiang Yang
Jiang Ling
Nan Yang
Gong Yang
Chao Ge
Ju Lu
Han Dan
Shang Dang
Zheng Zhou
Tai Yuan

Wu Chang
Chang Sha
Xu Chang
Zheng Zhou
Han Zhong
Tai Yuan
Da Tong
Tian Shui
Shou Chun
Su Zhou

Yang Zhou
Xu Zhou
Ji Nan
Zhen Ding
Liao Yang
Yu Men
Guang Zhou
Quan Zhou
Kun Min
Gui Yang

Nan Ning
Chong Qing
Lan Zhou
Wu Wei
Yin Chuan
Tian Jin
Chang Chun
Da Lian
Qing Dao
Shang Hai

The first 10 cities had been capital cities of China or Chinese dynasties at various time. The last 10 cities are cities founded quite recently.

[Lord Merciless]

Chinese Leaders: (titles in parenthesis)
Ji Chang (Zhou Wu Wang)
Sun Tzu
Ying Zheng (Shi Huang Di)
Liu Che (Han Wu Di)
Wei Qing
Cao Cao
Zhuge Liang
Li Shimin (Tang Tai Zong)
Li Jin
Zhao Kuangyin (Song Tai Zu)
Yue Fei
Zhu Yuangzhang (Ming Tai Zu)
Xuan Ye (Emperor Kangxi)
Sun Yat-Tsen
Deng Xiaoping

[Lord Merciless]

Russian Cities:
Moskva
St Petersburg
Kiev
Novgorod
Smolensk
Tsaritsyn/Volgograd/Stalingrad
Minsk
Pskov
Vitebsk
Mogilev

Borodino
Kharkov
Kursk
Belgorod
Voronezh
Djnepropetrovsk
Saratov
Samara
Kazan
Nizhny Novgorod/Gorky

Tula
Kaluga
Vologda
Astrakhan
Tyumen
Tobolsk
Surgut
Orsk
Orenburg
Omsk

Novosibirsk
Semipalatinsk
Tomsk
Krasnoyarsk
Irkutsk
Yakutsk
Khabarovsk
Vladivostok
Petropavlovsk
Archangelsk

Murmansk
Ekaterinburg
Perm
Ufa
Karaganda
Rostov
Sevastopol
Yaroslavl
Odessa
Kaliningrad

Kaliningrad is kind murky because it's Koenigsberg, too.

[Wernazuma III]

Thanks, I've changed the Chinese leaders and will do it for the Russians. As I've said, I already got chinese cities.

Compare your list with mine, then suggest changes.Beijing
Shanghai
Kanton
Nanking
Hongkong
Xian
Tsingtao
Xinjian
Taipeh
Chengdu
Hangzhou
Tientsin
Tatung
Macao
Fushun
Sian
Anyang
Shantung
Taiyuan
Mukden
Kuangchuan
Wuhan
Yang
Liaojang
Chinan
Lanzhou
Kaifeng
Kunming
Kueilin
Shengjang
Changchun
Anshan
Ningsia
Ningpo
Paoting
Tainan
Yünnan
Loyang
Chiangling
Suzhou
Zhangjiakou
Qingdao
Taichung
Wuxi
Fuzhou
Chiao
Gejiu
Wei
Harbin
Xuzhou
Yangchow
Luda
Baotou
Chongqing
Kaohsiung
Guiyang
Xining
Hohhot
Yumen
Haikou


BTW, I've updated my homepage:

http://de.geocities.com/wernazuma/extrapack.htm

Check out the BIC-file. It's crippled and not playable, but good to take a look into it.

[Lord Merciless]

Firaxis seems to have lots of trouble with Chinese city names. They used several province names, were quite inconsistent with pronounciations, and created many duplicates.

Compare your list with mine, then suggest changes.
Chang An: If you talk about the capital of the Chinese civilization, no other city will ever beat Chang An, which is what Xian was previously called.
Luo Yang: This city is second in importance in Chinese history.
Beijing - Bei Jing
Shanghai - Shang Hai
Kanton - Guang Zhou
Nanking - I would call it Jian Kang, or its modern version Nan Jing.
Hongkong - Hong Kong
Xian - It's replaced by Chang An.
Tsingtao - Qing Dao
Xinjian - There is no such city or province in China
Taipeh - OK
Chengdu = Cheng Du
Hangzhou - Hang Zhou
Tientsin - Tian Jin
Tatung - Da Tong
Macao - Throw out this city, it has very little importance in China.
Fushun - Fu Shun
Sian - Sian is Xian is Chang An.
Anyang - An Yang was the capital of the first dynasty in China
Shantung - This is a province name.
Taiyuan - Tai Yuan
Mukden - It's Shen Yang. Mukden is probably used by the Japanese and would insult any Chinese gamer.
Kuangchuan - There is no such city or province in China.
Wuhan - I would use Wu Chang here.
Yang - Yang Zhou
Liaojang - Liao Yang
Chinan - Ji Nan
Lanzhou - Lan Zhou
Kaifeng - Kai Feng. You may want to place it higher in the list as it's a stragetically important city in China.
Kunming - Kun Min
Kueilin - Gui Ling
Shengjang - It's the same as Mukden and Shen Yang
Changchun - Chang Chun
Anshan - An Shan is hardly a major town in China.
Ningsia - Again, a province name. Yin Chuan is the provincial capital.
Ningpo - Ning Bo
Paoting - Bao Ding
Tainan - Tai Nan
Yünnan - Maybe it means Yunnan, a province?
Loyang - same as Luo Yang
Chiangling - Jiang Ling
Suzhou - Su Zhou
Zhangjiakou - Zhang Jia Kou
Qingdao - already listed
Taichung - OK
Wuxi - Wu Xi
Fuzhou - Fu Zhou
Chiao - Qiao is only a county, but birthplace of the GL Cao Cao.
Gejiu - ????
Wei - Ye Cheng
Harbin - OK
Xuzhou - Xu Zhou
Yangchow - same as Yang Zhou
Luda - Da Lian
Baotou - OK
Chongqing - Chong Qing
Kaohsiung - Gao Xiong
Guiyang - Gui Yang
Xining - OK
Hohhot - OK
Yumen - OK
Haikou - OK

I would add the following more cities:
Nan Yang
Xu Chang
Chao Ge
Gong Yang
Tian Shui
Zhen Ding

[Ribannah]

Here's a list of 10 Iroquois leaders

Canaqueese (Mohawk) ca. 1630-?
Garangula (Onondaga) ca. 1640-?
Canassatego (Seneca) ?-1750
King Hendrick (Mohawk) ?-1755
Skenandoah (Oneida) 1706-1816
Handsome Lake (Seneca) 1735-1815
Cornplanter (Seneca) 1736-1836
Joseph Brant (Mohawk) 1742-1807
Sagoyewatha (Seneca) 1758-1830
Ely Parker (Seneca) 1828-1895

[Wernazuma III]

I changed the leaders of the Iroquois.
I'll change the chinese list later in the evening.

[Wernazuma III]

lord merciless: Is the seperate writing of the chinese names really much more accurate? I ask, because Beijing et al. are already so familiar.

[Lord Merciless]

Yes, because a Chinese city usually have 2 characters, and I think each of them should be represented by an English word.

But if you feel comfortable writing the other way, that's fine, too.

[Wernazuma III]

Yes, I fell more comfortable
How comes that you know so much about Chinese history?

Anyway, here's the revised list:

Beijing
Changan
Loyang
Shanghai
Guangzhou
Jiankang
Hongkong
Tsingtao
Kaifeng
Taipeh
Chengdu
Hangzhou
Tientsin
Tatung
Fushun
Anyang
Taiyuan
Shenjang
Wuchang
Yangzhou
Liaojang
Jinan
Lanzhou
Kunmin
Guiling
Changchun
Ningbo
Baoding
Tainan
Jiangling
Suzhou
Zhangjiakou
Taichung
Wuxi
Fuzhou
Ye Chang
Harbin
Xuzhou
Dalian
Baotou
Chongqing
Kaohsiung
Guiyang
Xining
Hohhot
Yumen
Haikou
Nanyang
Xuchang
Chaoge
Gong yang
Tianshui
Zhending

[Wernazuma III]

Oh, I forgot to say: I let Beijing in first place, because it's already the most important city for quite some time (so it comes close to Chang An) and it's the more popularly known, I think people want to have something familiar as capital, so as long as it's no bull****, I tend to make it so.


Anyway, only a few things left (I did most tasks myself already).

However, we lack the Zulu cities. Only 16 in the original list! I can't find much, can you?

[DarkCloud]

Volodymyr- ancient Russian leader... of Moscow.
and the regulars:
Leon Trotsky
Iosif Stalin
Lenin
Kruschev
Ivan the Terrible
Catherine the Great

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The Zulu were tribespeople... they didn't build much in the way of cities... You could just include some of the English trade cities in the list, if you like, since they were in their territory

[Lord Merciless]

More Russian GLs:
Ivan III
Peter the Great
Bagration
Brusilov
Tuchachevski
Shukov
Konev

[molly bloom]

For India (by which we mean, presumably, leaders of civilizations originating/predominantly in the Indian sub-continent):

Akbar the Great

Indira Gandhi

Jawaharlal Nehru

Mohammad Ali Jinnah

The Rani of Jaipur

Tippu Sultan

Asoka

Kanishka

Chandragupta

Cities:

Harappa

Mohenjo-Daro

Sigirya

Bamiyan

Taxila

Delhi/New Delhi

Fatehpur Sikri

Karachi

Islamabad

Lahore

Amritsar

Kandy

Trincomalee

Anuradhapura

Calcutta

Bombay/Mumbai

Madras

Khajuraho

Cochin

Bangalore

Travancore

Hyderabad

Ahmedabad

Sarnath

Mamallapuram

Chandigarh

Srinagar

Darjeeling

Dhaka

Cox's Bazaar

Varanasi/Benares

Madura

Konarak

Goa

Lucknow

Puna/Poona

Rawalpindi

Simla

Jaipur

Jodhpur

Calicut

Pondicherry

Thimpu

Imphal

Cuttak

Patna

Allahabad

Agra

Jabalpur

Nagpur

Vishakhapatnam

Baroda

Quetta

Peshawar

Yanaon

That should be enough to be going on with, I think...