¿Which 3 european civs deserve to be present in Civ4?

[yellfromhell]

Partial results July 23 - 13:18 GMT -3 hours

Patial results of first poll (¿Which new Euro-Civ deserves to be in Civ4?)

Spanish .................................................. ................ 5 votes
Belgians, Dutch, Celts, Turks, Poles & Vikings ................ 1 vote
One not listed here .................................................. . 4 votes

Partial results of 2nd poll (¿Which 3 new Euro-Civs deserve to be in Civ4?) - after Spiffors vote -)

1. Spanish ......................................... 10 votes
2. Dutch ........................................... 6 votes
3. Vikings .......................................... 5 votes (one as the Norse)
4. Portuguese .................................... 4 votes
5. Turks ............................................. 3 votes (one as the Ottomans)
6. Celts ............................................ 2 votes
7. Austro-hungarians .............................. 1 vote
- Minoans ........................................... 1 vote
- Iberians ........................................... 1 vote

Thanks
Yellfromhell

[JoshHam]

You think we really need 3 more Europeans civs?

Well anyhow...
1. Turks
2. Vikings
3. Spain

[yellfromhell]

Partial results July 27 - 09:32 GMT -3 hours

Patial results of first poll (¿Which new Euro-Civ deserves to be in Civ4?)

1. Spanish .................................................. ................ 6 votes
2. Dutch .................................................. ................... 3 votes
3. Turks .................................................. .................... 2 votes
-. Poles .................................................. ..................... 2 votes
4. Belgian .................................................. .................. 1 vote
-. Celts .................................................. ..................... 1 vote
-. Vikings .................................................. ................... 1 vote

One not listed here .................................................. . 4 votes

Partial results of 2nd poll (¿Which 3 new Euro-Civs deserve to be in Civ4?) - after JoshHams vote -)

1. Spanish .......................................... 11 votes
2. Dutch ............................................ 6 votes
- Vikings ............................................ 6 votes (one as the Norse)
4. Portuguese ..................................... 4 votes
- Turks .............................................. 4 votes (one as the Ottomans)
6. Celts ............................................. 2 votes
7. Austro-hungarians ............................ 1 vote
- Minoans ........................................... 1 vote
- Iberians ........................................... 1 vote

Thanks
Yellfromhell

[Rasbelin]

Celts
Spanish
Ottoman

[Rasbelin]

BTW where's that old good Civ IV wish list now?

[GePap]

1. Since Spaniards and Ottomans will be in civ3 soon, in PTW, i would say for civ4:

1.Poles
2.Dutch
3. Italians (not the Romans, but folk like Venetians, Florentines, so forth who are not represented in the game)

Also, Huns =/ Magyar (Hungarians), and the Austro-Hungarian empire was a political units that existed only from 1867-1919. Before that it was either the Asutrian Empire (Germans ruling over Magyars), or just the eastern end of the Holy Roman Empire. Since the Austrians are already in, as part of the Germans, the choice should be Magyar besides the Huns, which are a different group.

[yellfromhell]

Partial results July 27 - 12:12 GMT -3 hours

Patial results of first poll (¿Which new Euro-Civ deserves to be in Civ4?)

1. Spanish .................................................. ................ 8 votes
2. Dutch .................................................. ................... 3 votes
-. Poles .................................................. .................... 3 votes
4. Turks .................................................. ..................... 2 votes
-. Celts .................................................. ..................... 2 votes
6. Belgian .................................................. .................. 1 vote
-. Vikings .................................................. ................... 1 vote

One not listed here .................................................. . 4 votes

Partial results of 2nd poll (¿Which 3 new Euro-Civs deserve to be in Civ4?) - after GePapa vote, if I figure how to understand it -)

1. Spanish .......................................... 12 votes
2. Dutch ............................................ 7 votes
- Vikings ............................................ 6 votes (one as the Norse)
4. Turks .............................................. 5 votes (two as the Ottomans)
5. Portuguese ..................................... 4 votes
6. Celts ............................................. 3 votes
7. Austro-hungarians ............................ 1 vote
- Minoans ........................................... 1 vote
- Iberians ........................................... 1 vote
- Poles .............................................. 1 vote
- Italians ............................................ 1 vote

Thanks
Yellfromhell

[yellfromhell]

End of both polls:

1) Final Results of first poll (¿Which new Euro-Civ deserves to be in Civ4?)

1. Spanish .................................................. ................ 8 votes
2. Dutch .................................................. ................... 3 votes
-. Poles .................................................. .................... 3 votes
-. Turks .................................................. ..................... 3 votes
4. Celts .................................................. ..................... 2 votes
-. Vikings .................................................. ................... 2 vote
6. Belgians .................................................. .................. 1 vote

2) Final results of 2nd poll (¿Which 3 new Euro-Civs deserve to be in Civ4?)

1. Spanish .......................................... 12 votes
2. Dutch ............................................ 7 votes
- Vikings ............................................ 6 votes
4. Turks .............................................. 5 votes
5. Portuguese ..................................... 4 votes
6. Celts ............................................. 3 votes
7. Austro-hungarians ............................ 1 vote
- Minoans ........................................... 1 vote
- Iberians ........................................... 1 vote
- Poles .............................................. 1 vote
- Italians ............................................ 1 vote

As I understand this results, the first poll has a bigger risk of promoting 'nationalist voting' (because it gives you just one chance). The 2nd poll has a lower risk of having that kind of votes because you can vote for 3 civs. Anyway, this wasnt scientific, so every motivation for voting counts.

Im sorry for the Poles and Vikings but, looking at the results, my point of view is that the Spanish, the Dutch and the Turks should be in civ4.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

What's this? No Hugs or Thanks?

I think I'm going to cry.

(Have to settle with scared, Apoly doesn't appear to have a cry smilie.)

[yellfromhell]

Sorry Ghengis,
Hugs
Yell

[Hagbart]

I vote for the Vikings, Spanish and Turks (last one hard choice).

[Serb]

Originally posted by siredgar

8. Serbs (although I don't really like them, esp. the one named "Serb", LOL)

Hey, what's your problem with Serbs? Is it because of me? You know that I'm not Serbian, but Russian. And why you don't like me?

[Heresson]

[Serb]

What?

[Myrddin]

Celts, Bavarians and Basques (for sheer endurance)