Worst/Best Specialized Unit?

[Drefsab]

Personally, I hate the French's musketeer. It is a pain because you can't upgrade your pikemen/spearmen until you get nationalism and the 1 point of extra offense really is not a very impressive trade-off. In my games using the french, I simply kept building pikemen until i discovered nationalism and then upgraded from there.

Conversely, I've found the Egyptians War Chariot to be a huge deal early in the game when you have another Civ on your doorstep. They cost less than horseman but are as effective and using them gives you an early golden age. Every bit of land area you can scrounge up in the early game is going to be useful and the war chariot is probably the best at beating other civs down early.

[Kekkonen]

I'm just starting out, I'm currently in the middle of my first game on Warlord (working up the difficulty one level at the time) as the Indians. I have to say, if you don't have Iron and Horses, the War Elephants can probably save the day, but if you have plenty of both, they're kind of lame. Same stats as the knight, which is what they replace.

[Altuar]

Best? My vote would go to either Immortals or Panzers.

[Dalai Lama]

I`m playing with the Greeks, and i must say, the Hoplite is a great defender. Defence of your cities in the early years is never a problem with these guys.

[Fromage]

Best: Immortal and hoplites are nice.

It really depends on the game. Ancient special units are pretty useless if first war starts on 20th century

[Eli]

Immortals. It's great to annihilate our enemies early in the game.

Hoplites are great too, keeps you undefeatable in big part of the early game. The Babylonian bowmen are also useful, but they cant be upgraded to more advanced defence units so you still have to build those spearmen.

[TheDarkside]

I played just about every civ, and in my opinion based of current circumstance, the F-15 is the worst since you cant intercept like it should, while the jade warrior is the best. they are basically a scout and a super-early chariot.

[EricWright]

My vote goes to immortals. I've played Germans, but not far enough to get Panzers, Aztecs (Jag warriors aren't great... just one extra movement), and Romans. Legionaries are pretty good, but I prefer the Immortals. The bad thing is not finding any iron near by, though.

[Venger]

The glory and power of Rome

I keep hearing people talk about immortal being all that great - but are they REALLY? I submit the legion is superior.

The values of the immortal are 4/2/1, the legion 3/3/1. About the same, yes? Except for one thing. The defensive value can me modified, and the offensive value cannot. A fortified legion is equal to an immortal on defense, but an immortal is outmatched defending fortified against a legion. Even without fortification, the advantage the immortal has on offense of 33% is outweighed by the 50% advantage the legion has against it. This percentage is exacerbated the more it is modified.

4 immortals attack 3 legions with 50% defense bonus:

Likely outcome - 4 dead immortals, one dead and two damaged legions.

4 legions attack 3 immortals with 50% defensive bonus:

Likely outcome - many. You will likely see one strong legion and one weak legion facing either one weak immortal or ZERO weak immortals. You could also get 3 damaged and one full strength legion with the immortals wiped out as often as you get one strong against two weak immortals.

The legion is the superior overall unique unit.

Venger

[korn469]

The best defense is a good offense or so they say, and thats why the immortal is the best CSU in my opinion, they fit my play style and give you the firepower you need to pound the pathetic AI's head in time and time again

[Footie Mad]

Immortals get my vote. Worst so far has to be the man-o-war.
BTW is that drefsab from battlereports.com?

[dr.charm]

Man-o-war is piece-o-crap, IMHO. I have to admit a certain like of the Babylonian Bowman. In the very early game, it lets you launch an attack without having to use spearmen to back it up/hold towns. I had good experiences with it.

Cheers,

Dr. Charm

[The Templar]

Best? The panzer, hands down. A size four army of Panzers is indestructable, and crushes everything else.

Worst? Jaguar warrior. What a joke! Warriors suck as is - a jag warrior just sucks faster.

[Buck Birdseed]

Best: Jaguar Warrior- the ultimate scout, cheap, evasive, and can crush budding civilizations before anything major happens. Being able to scout and kill off enemies in the first twenty turns is a huge advantage.

Worst: Probably one of those poncy late-game ones. F15 or something.

[kalishatra]

best: Jag warriors. their early rush is terrifying. "only have an extra movement" indeed lol

Mounted warriors: a small horde can take down any defending civ, imnsho.

Immortals: yeah, baby. punch punch punch.

Samurai: militaristic civ, good attack, best defense for their time. they advance to elite, and stay alive, for ultimate leader generation. don't need horses, and can retreat.

Worst: F-15 (never seen one, never will)

Man-o-War: what a joke

Musketeer: yuck

Egyptian Chariot: yay. basically allows you to build horsemen one tech in advance. but you likely don't yet have horses or the infrastructure to make a significant army.