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  • Expansion Pack Civ: Canada

    Just some initial thoughts... Not high on most people's lists but some of us Canucks wouldn't mind including it in.

    Cities (Metropolitan Area Population as of 1996 Census)
    Ottawa-Hull 1,010,498
    Toronto 4,263,757
    Montreal 3,326,510
    Vancouver 1,831,665
    Edmonton 862,597
    Calgary 821,628
    Quebec City 671,889
    Winnipeg 667,209
    Hamilton 624,360
    Halifax 332,518
    Victoria 304,287
    Saskatoon 219,056
    Regina 193,652
    St. John’s 174,051
    Fredericton 78,950
    Charlottetown 57,224
    Whitehorse 21,808
    Yellowknife 17,275
    Iqualuit 5,000*
    Inuvik 3,296

    *Not included in 1996 census. Approximation as stated on Iqualuit’s website.

    Alternatively, we could arrange the cities by chronology which would change the order substantially. I'm not sure what the "ideal" number of cities are.

    Head of Government: Pierre Elliot Trudeau

    Regardless of your political stripe, I would argue that Trudeau is the most famous political leader Canada has ever produced.


    Military Leaders:
    General Sir Julian Byng (Vimy Ridge)
    General Arthur Currie (Passchendaele)
    Lieutenant E.L.M. Burns (Passchendaele)
    General Harry Crear (Normandy)

    I am not a military historian, and this only covers the army. Someone with more knowledge could help in this area. Here's a good website:

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    As to a civ-specific unit, I was thinking maybe a "Fur Trader" or "Voyageur". This would occur at the very beginning of the game and act as a Settler, except for the fact that it could cover more ground per turn (2+?). This would simulate the expansive nature of Canada but I wouldn't want it to be a military unit.

    Just brainstorming...

  • #2
    An American "Civilization" is already stretching it a bit, but this is just plain silly

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    • #3
      Very productive response...

      I'm sure there are a lot of gamers out there who want to include there own nation, regardless of whether it qualifies under someone else's definition of "civilization".

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      • #4
        Hey Hey! And the special unit would be--- The Mounty.
        Empire growing,
        Pleasures flowing,
        Fortune smiles and so should you.

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        • #5
          A logical UU might be the much touted Avro Arrow, Jet fighter with one of the stats bumped up a touch.

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          • #6
            Not again those puny canadians!
            You've already ennervated everyone here on the Forum when we still thought we had some influence on the In-Game Civs.
            Live with it: Canadians live in the woods. If you want to, add Canada in your individual game or make an own "Canada-mod"!
            We made a poll about which Civs to include and Canada was FAR from being a popular choice! Austria almost came in, yet I don't go around demanding it SHOULD be in. I'll simply add it for myself if I wish too.
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            • #7
              Canada is a mix of other cultures too much to be even in the top 30. Of course it does have it particularities, but not more than a looooooot of others. As same as a village as particularities compared to its country. Canada is easily included in some more general cultures.

              And Jason, don't talk to me about the Arrow plane, I'm almost gonna cry... but I think (possibly) it was in great part made specifically by a minority in Canada (french speaking part). I'm basing this on the fact that aeronotics is our speciality in Quebec and not in the rest of Canada at all. Flying frogs
              It's why we have Bombardier I guess...

              But nevermind all that, we are a mix of some other cultures, and not a distinctive culture by itself.
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              • #8
                UU = improved infantryman. Higher attack stats.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Wernazuma III
                  Not again those puny canadians!
                  You've already ennervated everyone here on the Forum when we still thought we had some influence on the In-Game Civs.
                  Live with it: Canadians live in the woods. If you want to, add Canada in your individual game or make an own "Canada-mod"!
                  We made a poll about which Civs to include and Canada was FAR from being a popular choice! Austria almost came in, yet I don't go around demanding it SHOULD be in. I'll simply add it for myself if I wish too.
                  Wow...someone's definetly bitter...

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                  • #10
                    Reminds me of a guy I went to university with. He was from Italy. One day he was bragging about Italy's great history and how Canada wasn't a real country because it had no history. I reminded him it was Canadian troops who helped to liberate his country. He denied there were ever Canadian troops in Italy. We get no respect.
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                    • #11
                      It's not because we helped Italy that Italians should say Canada is a civilisation... Canada has no history? Well it has less, that's all. The argument isn't there since a civilization with less history isn't less a civ because it has less history but because it didn't had the time to differentiate itself as much as annother civilization may have in 2000 years.
                      Go GalCiv, go! Go Society, go!

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                      • #12


                        I agree, Canada doesn't have enough of a unique culture to use as a civ. What the heck would be the UU?

                        Now the Aussies are FAR more interesting. A bushman UU would be cool--functions as a bowman upgrade, but attacks with boomerangs.

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                        • #13
                          I don't think including a Canadian civilization is any more absurd than including a Polish civ. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
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                          • #14
                            What priority on the Civ expansion list would they have?

                            I don't know if I'd put Canada on a rank higher than #48 (assuming the original 16 are included). Please convince me otherwise.
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                            • #15


                              Canada covers ~10 million km^2 (2nd largest country in the world)

                              Canada is far more distinct from Britain than Australia is

                              Canada had the 3rd largest navy in the world by 1945

                              Canadian troops were the most feared force on the WWI battlefields

                              Canada is one of the few countries in the world that manages to operate bilingually on almost all levels

                              Canada invented socialised health care

                              Canada invented peacekeeping

                              Canada was the first former British colony to peacefully make its way to independence, and provided an example to the rest of what was to become the British Commonwealth

                              We kicked your ass in 1812
                              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                              Stadtluft Macht Frei
                              Killing it is the new killing it
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