Expansion Pack Civ: Canada

[Willem]

Originally posted by Wernazuma III
Not again those puny canadians!
You've already ennervated everyone here on the Forum when we still thought we had some influence on the In-Game Civs.
Live with it: Canadians live in the woods. If you want to, add Canada in your individual game or make an own "Canada-mod"!
We made a poll about which Civs to include and Canada was FAR from being a popular choice! Austria almost came in, yet I don't go around demanding it SHOULD be in. I'll simply add it for myself if I wish too.

For God's sakes, he's not saying we have to be in the game, he's just giving some ideas if any Canadian wants to create a Canada civ. What is the problem with that?

[Willem]

Originally posted by TKG


oh! thats right! thats why we're all using COMPUTERS!

Yeah, and it's a real ***** when my igloo starts melting and shorts out all the wires.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Don't forget about Bryan Adams...

Hey, what about Celine dion? No please, don't hit me.

[Willem]

Originally posted by TacticalGrace

Great. Next you are going to tell me that the inventor of the telephone was canadian.

As a matter of fact... It's common knowledge that the telephone was invented by Alexander Graham Bell, in Brantford, Ont.

[John Biles]

To try to take the original idea seriously, I'd probably say the two best qualities would be Industrious and Expansionist, and that the best unique unit would be something along the line of Fur Traders, which would be a worker with improved movement (since Fur Traders typically covered huge distances), probably made available when Economics is invented.

[Willem]

Originally posted by John Biles
To try to take the original idea seriously, I'd probably say the two best qualities would be Industrious and Expansionist, and that the best unique unit would be something along the line of Fur Traders, which would be a worker with improved movement (since Fur Traders typically covered huge distances), probably made available when Economics is invented.

Voyageur would be a better name for it, and a Scout type would be more appropriate for that idea. They didn't stick around the city farming or mining, they were out in the bush exploring at the same time as they were working.

[Cairo_East]

Maybe I'm just new here, but why are there completely pointless arguments about the "rank worth" of a country and the "value" of having a civ? It's a friggin' mod! People can do whatever they want with it, and at the end of the day, who the f cares about what you think? As the saying goes: if you don't like the music, change the station!

So, enough of a rant, back to CivIII:

How about this setup that blends some historical chronology and relative population size?

Ottawa
Quebec City
Montreal
Toronto
Halifax
St. John
Fredericton
Charlottetown
Vancouver
Victoria
Winnipeg
Hamilton (or Windsor)
Edmonton
Saskatoon
Calgary
Regina
Whitehorse
Yellowknife
Iqualuit
Inuvik

What about Lester Pearson as the leader? Sure, he may have not been the best PM during his time, but his foreign policy made him one of the most well-known and respected leaders in the world after the Suez Crisis.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Cairo_East
Maybe I'm just new here, but why are there completely pointless arguments about the "rank worth" of a country and the "value" of having a civ? It's a friggin' mod! People can do whatever they want with it, and at the end of the day, who the f cares about what you think? As the saying goes: if you don't like the music, change the station!

So, enough of a rant, back to CivIII:

How about this setup that blends some historical chronology and relative population size?

Ottawa
Quebec City
Montreal
Toronto
Halifax
St. John
Fredericton
Charlottetown
Vancouver
Victoria
Winnipeg
Hamilton (or Windsor)
Edmonton
Saskatoon
Calgary
Regina
Whitehorse
Yellowknife
Iqualuit
Inuvik

What about Lester Pearson as the leader? Sure, he may have not been the best PM during his time, but his foreign policy made him one of the most well-known and respected leaders in the world after the Suez Crisis.

What about Kingston? That used to be the capital at one time. It was moved to Ottawa because of fears of an American invasion.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Admiral Stukov

Reminds me of the whole cause of the war...

the Americans thought they could just walk in and take over Canada cause Britian was too occupied with the war in Europe.

[Cairo_East]

Originally posted by Willem


What about Kingston? That used to be the capital at one time. It was moved to Ottawa because of fears of an American invasion.

Good call. I went up to Queen's Univ. in Kingston a few years bak, right after the HUGE winter storm seemingly knocked down every tree above two-storeys. Still beautiful. But it's position next to Lake Ontario and Watertown, New York would make it fairly vulnerable.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Cairo_East


Good call. I went up to Queen's Univ. in Kingston a few years bak, right after the HUGE winter storm seemingly knocked down every tree above two-storeys. Still beautiful. But it's position next to Lake Ontario and Watertown, New York would make it fairly vulnerable.

You might also want to consider London. Historically it played an important role in the development of SW Ontario. The fact that it is located at the fork of two river systems made it quite valuable in the early days, and it's still a major center for the area. Mind you, there might be some confusion with London, England though.

[Cairo_East]

What about Medicine Hat?

[Method]

Originally posted by Cairo_East
Ottawa
Quebec City
Montreal
Toronto
Halifax
St. John
Fredericton
Charlottetown
Vancouver
Victoria
Winnipeg
Hamilton (or Windsor)
Edmonton
Saskatoon
Calgary
Regina
Whitehorse
Yellowknife
Iqualuit
Inuvik

i might put kingston at the top (gasp) it being previously the capital. Kyoto is Japan's founding city, even though Tokyo is the capital today. at the time (or so i have heard...) ottawa was a small lumber town with few people but it was chosen over toronto or kingston because the french people didn't want the capital to be so far away from quebec.

my list might go

Kingston
Quebec
Montreal
York/Toronto
Halifax
Fredricton
Charlottetown
Saint John's
maybe Sydney
Ottawa (possibly higher)
Vancouver
Victoria
Winnipeg
London/Hamilton/St. Catherine's
Saskatoon
Regina
Calgary
Edmonton
Whitehorse
Yellowknife
Iqualuit
Inuvic

possibly with the addition (1 not all) of Sudbury, Timmins, Thunder Bay, Kapuskasing or something

after Winnipeg those can be in any order

[Cairo_East]

Originally posted by TKG


i might put kingston at the top (gasp) it being previously the capital. Kyoto is Japan's founding city, even though Tokyo is the capital today. at the time (or so i have heard...) ottawa was a small lumber town with few people but it was chosen over toronto or kingston because the french people didn't want the capital to be so far away from quebec.

I read somewhere that Queen Victoria was given a couple of pictures to look at and chose Ottawa because of its bucolic image of a small lumber town. Actually, I don't even think it was called Ottawa at that time.

Would it be too confusing to include St. John and St. John's? I think I would get confused if I was playing in the game about which city was which. I know I avoid the New Berlin, Berlin 2 city wrap by re-naming the city and avoiding confusion. If not, I'd put in St. John, due to the late inclusion of Newfoundland into Canada in 1949.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by TKG


i might put kingston at the top (gasp) it being previously the capital. Kyoto is Japan's founding city, even though Tokyo is the capital today. at the time (or so i have heard...) ottawa was a small lumber town with few people but it was chosen over toronto or kingston because the french people didn't want the capital to be so far away from quebec.

my list might go

Kingston
Quebec
Montreal
York/Toronto
Halifax
Fredricton
Charlottetown
Saint John's
maybe Sydney
Ottawa (possibly higher)
Vancouver
Victoria
Winnipeg
London/Hamilton/St. Catherine's
Saskatoon
Regina
Calgary
Edmonton
Whitehorse
Yellowknife
Iqualuit
Inuvic

possibly with the addition (1 not all) of Sudbury, Timmins, Thunder Bay, Kapuskasing or something

after Winnipeg those can be in any order

Sydney?????

Definitely Thunder Bay and Kapuskasing simply because they're cool names.