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  • #16
    Arabs, I really think, were using cavalry more than camels. They had espescially good horses.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Mongoloid Cow
      Whatever the Arab UU is, it should have +1 movement. During the Crusades and early expansion, speed and hit-and-run raids were the only advantage the soldiers had (except for Fanatacism but the Europeans/Crusaders had that too). I think it should replace the horsemen personally because replacing the Knight would make it too strong.
      I agree.

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      True, but Arab cavalry wasn't exactly unique, their camelry was (well, almost anyway).
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      • #18
        How about a modern unit for the Arabs? Something similar to the zealot in CivII...a cheap foot infantry unit who's strength would be numbers. That's my vote.

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        • #19
          What about mameluke walking soldiers instead of mounted ones?

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          • #20
            I think Arabs should receive a unique naval unit. They were very strong at the sea. Maybe an old unit with +1 mov?

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            • #21
              No sea UU

              Currently sea units are not used that often early in the game and they are not very powerfull, plus if you played on a world with large continents, such a unit would help you little. We should remember that the Arabs, as strong as they were at sea, created a continiuos land empire, not an overseas one.
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              • #22
                Armoured camels???

                Fast light cavalry seems right - could they be made stealthy?
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                • #23
                  Stats of camel unit

                  I would say it should be like a horse man (2/1/2), only it doesn't require horses to build and only cost 25 shields instead of 30.
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                  • #24
                    i would like to have a bunch of usless camels to exterminate

                    seriously.... : camel
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                    • #25
                      a camel unit should not be 2.1.2 That would only make it suitable for the ancient time period, and this is simply not so. 4.2.2 gives it the attack needed to defeat spearman, swordsman, and a chance against hoplites. Pikemen would be effective against them, which seems accurate to me, and if attacked by horsemen it would be close to an even match, which also seems correct.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Mankind
                        i would like to have a bunch of usless camels to exterminate

                        seriously.... : camel
                        Britain in WWII:

                        'Camels are ideal for the desert, they can carry heavy loads for long distances without food and water. However, they cannot cope with temperatures below zero.
                        In World War Two, the camels aided transport in Eritea and Somaliland, and the small Somaliland Camel Corps successfully kept an invading force of Italian artillery and tanks at bay until reinforcements arrived.'


                        French Saharian Troops
                        'The Goum was like an old west posse. It was quickly assembled in response to a raid or before setting out on an expedition of conquest. The Arab Bureau Officer would call upon Arab caids to furnish men. The willingness of the Arabs to cooperate depended on the personal and political relationship between the caid and the officer. The Goumiers were mounted on horses or camels. They could range for hundreds of miles, far beyond the capabilities of Europeans or gular native troops. '

                        The Jihad:

                        'The Byzantines’ preoccupation with the Sassanians diverted their attention away from what was happening in the Arabian desert. For countless years marauding Bedouin tribesmen had periodically staged raids to the north. What was new, however, was that the Arabs who swept northward on horse and camel-back were now united by a common faith, that of Islam. It took the Arabs only ten years to fully dismantle Byzantine control over the lands of Jordan, Palestine and Syria. '

                        Go camels.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by SofaKing
                          Would a UU called Terrorist be out of line? It could be a modern era unit 16/1/1.
                          this just shows the ignorance of most people.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ElitePersian


                            this just shows the ignorance and idiocy of most people.

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                            • #29
                              If you want a hit-and-run unit, and one the Arabs are known for, there's really only one choice.

                              The Assassin!

                              would function as a fast swordsman. Persians get attack, Romans get defense, Arabs would get speed.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by orange
                                you are a moron.

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